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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

One suggestion. Once a post hits 5 votes, no one can vote on it anymore so that'll cut down on Reported posts plus emails. Smile
Or ppl can still vote but once a post hits 5 votes, only 1 email is sent.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

amrayu wrote:
One suggestion. Once a post hits 5 votes, no one can vote on it anymore so that'll cut down on Reported posts plus emails. Smile
Or ppl can still vote but once a post hits 5 votes, only 1 email is sent.


yeah i thought about that, the only people that can vote past 5 votes are moderators since they're the only ones that can see it Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I see that the test post got reported now, but where is the option to keep the post?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ruroshin wrote:
amrayu wrote:
One suggestion. Once a post hits 5 votes, no one can vote on it anymore so that'll cut down on Reported posts plus emails. Smile
Or ppl can still vote but once a post hits 5 votes, only 1 email is sent.


yeah i thought about that, the only people that can vote past 5 votes are moderators since they're the only ones that can see it Smile


Good job! Looks like a good feature so far. salut
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

gryzze wrote:
I see that the test post got reported now, but where is the option to keep the post?


oh yeah Laugh will implement that feature tonight.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: -1 Reply with quote

gryzze wrote:
I see that the test post got reported now, but where is the option to keep the post?


I think you just delete the post via normal modding methods. But if you want to keep just leave it as is?
This might prove troublesome later on? What if a mod wants to keep but another deletes it?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

amrayu wrote:
gryzze wrote:
I see that the test post got reported now, but where is the option to keep the post?


I think you just delete the post via normal modding methods. But if you want to keep just leave it as is?
This might prove troublesome later on? What if a mod wants to keep but another deletes it?


I will have to implement the moderator keep function otherwise the users will not be able to see the post anymore. I think the moderator keep function will clear out the report but what to do next I'm still deciding on.

I'm thinking of either doing:

a. add -20 to the vote count so that its visible again but it allows the community to again vote it off if they feel that strongly against it.

b. add a new flag to indicate the post has been kept by a moderator and made visible to the public again and no more voting on the post is possible.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:42 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

-20? for a total of -15? seems a bit much. i think -10 for a total of -5 and a flag to indicate that it's been voted off before and set for "keep". if it gets voted off again, then the moderators should have the option for either permanent keep or delete (no more future voting for that post).

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:47 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ruroshin wrote:
Try it out and give me feedback over the week. What I'm looking for is:
* is the post threshold of 5 sufficient

Probably, since it prompts for a moderator to make a decision (which I think I understand is what would happen).
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* is the minimun post number 50 too high or too low

I think that's a good number. It's not so high that it seems unattainable (that's actually pretty easy to get to with even minimal involvement), but high enough that I would hope it would prevent the posting frenzy that occurs with such requirements.
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* is the +2/-2 too high or too low for the topic owner

I'm not sure how to word this, so bear with me. I may not understand why it's so important for a topic owner to have more of an impact (and I'm assuming this system would be applied to ALL topics, not just subtitle threads, right?). What's to stop a topic owner from voting against a post for no other reason than they disagree with it? The threads I've enjoyed most on this forum have been the ones where there's been differences of opinion (fortunately handled without flaming most of the time) and I'd hate to see the freedom of discussion hampered. I also don't mean to make a mountain out of a mole hill... perhaps it wouldn't be an issue, either from the beginning or once the newness of the system wore off. I just don't get why the topic owner should have a higher vote (other than in problematic subtitle threads, where I do understand why the fansubber would want to nip things in the bud quickly).

Thanks for all this hard work, Ruroshin.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:48 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ruroshin wrote:
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I voted to delete to help out on this trial ...(pretty cool btw)

the vote count went back to zero now...is it supposed to do that? Unsure


where? I can see the post, the vote count is at 5


what I meant was that when I voted the count went back to zero and I could see the post still...

but I left the thread in the meantime and came back now to find that the post has disappeared...so I guess it's working ok...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ruroshin wrote:
I'm thinking of either doing:

a. add -20 to the vote count so that its visible again but it allows the community to again vote it off if they feel that strongly against it.

b. add a new flag to indicate the post has been kept by a moderator and made visible to the public again and no more voting on the post is possible.

opinions?

I don't think the "a" option is necessary. They can still use the report button if they think the decision was wrong. I'd go with "b".

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Good point, gryzze. I withdraw my last suggestion.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:27 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

@InTr4nce: hope you don't mind, but I tested the vote option on your post. the new system works like a charm.....though it looks as if my latest vote was the trigger of your post's deletion.. ^^;; gomenasai~

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

no problem, lilswtangel. you actually voted on a different post than the others did ^_^"

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:04 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ruro:

thanks for taking many of the suggestions into consideration.

i have a few more:

1. i think the votes to delete should be increased to 10. the reason for this is NO ONE votes to keep a post unless they start seeing negative votes. but by five votes, the post may already be gone before anyone can try to support it. if ten is too many, maybe seven or eight?

2. Delete Vote is a bit confusing. And when you vote to KEEP, it's negative, but if you vote to DELETE, it's positive. seems a bit counter-intuitive. what about POST RATING (10 to delete)? then a vote to keep is positive, but a vote to delete is negative.

3. i agree w/ gryzze that a revived post should just be flagged with no additional voting. is it possible to place a note in POST RATING, "kept by mod, REPORT if needed".

but the feature seems pretty neat so far.

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