Community Moderation

Ok, its been bought to my attention that the subtitle forum could do with some more moderating as the number of problems in that forum is increasing.

I have an idea and I would like feedback on this.

What if I implemented a delete by popular vote function? It would work like this:

* Every post will have 2 new buttons available to registered users, a Delete and Keep button.
* Users can vote to have a particular post deleted.
* A user can vote once per post
* A user can vote Delete which adds +1
* A user can vote Keep which adds -1
* Users must have 10 or more post in order to vote
* After the amount of vote passes a certain threshold the post will be hidden and the moderators will be notified that the post should be deleted.
* The owner of the topic can vote to instantly delete a post in their topic, i.e. their vote adds +threshold.

This way its kind of the users moderate themselves, if a group of users try and abuse the function they will have the ability removed from them and a post is never permanently deleted until a moderator does the actual delete.

What do you think? What would be a good threshold to start off with?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:28 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

i think it's a great idea... Cool

users can opt to vote for delete rather than flame someone, if a post is chosen to be deleted by mods, the offender will get feedback as to why...
since abuse of the vote leads to loss of privilege, chances are fair people will reserve voting to what they deem serious offenses rather than niggly stuff...

as to the threshold, i think 10 votes would be okay, if only one or two users have a problem with something, or if it's really offensive, they still have report button, which usually leads to immediate action...
i think it's also good for the owner's vote alone to push an offensive post to threshold, even just the mildly irritating ones, at least they wont have to respond in like manner anymore...
plus, the added control should also remind everyone that flaming isn't really necessary, especially the niggly stuff... sweating

btw, what happens to "voted off posts" that have been quoted? do mods edit the quote?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: Post Rating: -2

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:47 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Sounds like a good idea... Smile

Would a moderator be able to keep a post rather than delete it?

Will the current # of votes be visible for the post, because why else would anyway use the keep button?

If someone abuses this function can we see who they are?

I think a 10 post threshold might be too much but I'm not sure. Maybe we could start with 5 posts and see how it works.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I think this is a great idea. Like ironicwave pointed out, it's better than flaming out at others and using any means to attack each other. It would reduce a lot of headaches for MODs to try and resolve the conflicts.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:49 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

the people who voted it off will know what's up when it's hidden and i don't think it's necessary to have the post remain up until it's decided by a mod that it's not necessary to delete after all...
that would be kind of like making the bad kid stand in the corner for all to see... somehow... pinch

i was going to ask about a similar function as report to alert mods, so i think that's cool...

what happens to posts that have been ruled to stay up?
will the vote function be permanently turned off for that post? it would be stupid to have to go through the whole process over and over...

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:21 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:19 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

not that we have any idiots here... Whistling

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Sounds like a great idea. If this was implemented, it'll cut down a whole lot of unecessary flame wars and spam on the forum. Plus, less work for the mods/admins. Smile

Would this only be implemented to the subtitle thread only? Or will it be implemented to all? I think the subtitle thread, torrent threads, and discussion threads are the key point. Maybe testing it out in the subtitle threads first and see from there... Unsure

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I like the idea of voting. Perhaps it would also be good to allow the topic starter to lock their own thread. Although, that ability might go to the head of the topic starter.

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

i like this idea, but i'm a bit of a pessimist when it comes to these things.

1. ten negative posts is a decent threshold to hide the entire post, but i say a VOTER should have 50 posts - at least - to be eligible. we have enough people trying to cheat for sotw/sotm. i can just imagine what people will do for this privilege.

2. i'm not completely keen on having the original poster (OP) completely control his/her thread at the whim of one button. (basically dictating what belongs in the thread and what does not.)

3. ironic makes an interesting point about what happens, if indeed, a mod decides the post is ok - and it was the OP that did not want it in there.

i love fansubbers. i protect them whenever possible. they do invaluable work that benefits the majority of this community. but having seen many of the REPORTs that come in, i have to say that some of them are made on criticisms that are quite mild. many are called 'flaming' posts that (IMHO) do not even come close to what i have seen as flames.

when a post does not have any constructive value and is simply an insult, i delete it instantly. no questions asked. not even a warning. i have deleted TONS of posts in this manner.

but there have been quite a few posts that are not nearly severe, which have been REPORTed as flames. i know many fansub groups probably hate my guts because i did not protect them as they felt i should have. i apologize, but like mizune, i feel there is sometimes a need to develop thicker skin.

i like this idea. i want to see it implemented. but i'd like to see a few modifications to the criteria before we do so.