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Good on ya for registering lah! Welcome to the forums Smile

Yeah she really isn't as bad as some people claim, but then, she isn't any good either. There's still plenty of room for improvement and I'm sure she will improve....eventually ^^


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Apparently, there was some casting controversy with Hong Gil Dong. Originally Joo Ji Hoon was going to be cast in Hong Gil Dong, but either he pulled out or his agency Olive Nine (yay!!!) pulled out right before the production was supposed to start. This is the 2nd time a JJH/SY casting fell through, and this is the 2nd casting issue this year related to O9. Some people say JJH wanted A-list money (a la his partner YEH); other people say it's Olive Nine's fault.

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Yeah she really isn't as bad as some people claim, but then, she isn't any good either. There's still plenty of room for improvement and I'm sure she will improve....eventually ^^


Truth is, I love both OFD and Snow Queen, and I liked her pairing with Gong Yoo more than YEH's in Coffee Prince. I like Coffee Prince a lot, but in terms of emotional connection, it's really Gong Yoo who sells the love. Whereas in One Fine Day, they just seemed oddly on the same page, in terms of how they look at each other and how they talked to each other. It just seemed to work.

To me, she's kinda like the female Song Seung Hun or Yamapi; .She's kinda like a puppy, a really lovable puppy. She barks; she whimpers; she looks really cute with a choker. In One Fine Day, she just wants to find a home. In Snow Queen, she snarls. And so on.

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As for her comparison with YEH....well...both of them do have similarity in their career path...therefore comparison is unavoidable. Sometimes getting a good role, a good script and good working partners all these plays a part, we have to pray hard that she gets good roles in near future.


The thing with Sung Yuri is that she's mostly avoided doing rom-com dramas, whereas YEH hasn't yet ventured outside of that yet. So, on one hand, you respect SY for her choices, but then you also accept that, well, she's kinda out of her depths in these roles. I'm not sure her playing a tomboy will work, but she's got a really dynamic performer -- Kang Ji Hwan -- playing opposite her. Be strong Yuri!
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The Hong sisters had the foresight to choose Sung Yuri. She can make even the supposedly saddest dramas into a comedy. FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION! Big Smile


Incorrect. The casting director chose the actress. It's quite possible the Hong sisters are not happy with the main lead actress.
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belleza wrote:
Apparently, there was some casting controversy with Hong Gil Dong. Originally Joo Ji Hoon was going to be cast in Hong Gil Dong, but either he pulled out or his agency Olive Nine (yay!!!) pulled out right before the production was supposed to start. This is the 2nd time a JJH/SY casting fell through, and this is the 2nd casting issue this year related to O9. Some people say JJH wanted A-list money (a la his partner YEH); other people say it's Olive Nine's fault.


I heard about that too. In fact, here's an "article" about it:

http://popseoul.com/2007/08/23/joo-ji-hoon-is-too-good-for-hong-gil-dong/#more-4922

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yea i heard about the casting issue with Hong Gil Dong and wasn't it suppose to have Jo Hyun Jae too? they didn't pick the lead actress yet and all of a sudden both dropped the project and eventually Kang Ji Hwan is casted..which I don't mind I really like Kang Ji Hwan and is looking forward to watching this drama Big Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:58 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

belleza, I don't quite see how Sung Yuri is kinda like the female Song Seung Hun? Surely that's a bit of an insult to SSH? Also, just out of curiosity, are you a F or M? I could never ascertain that from your posts Unsure
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I heard about that too. In fact, here's an "article" about it:

http://popseoul.com/2007/08/23/joo-ji-hoon-is-too-good-for-hong-gil-dong/#more-4922


Yeah, that's where I read about the JJH business. As a side note, I like popseoul a lot, but some of the writing lately has been bad. (Also, erm, their fashion observations are not as spot on as it was in spring! Big Smile ) I'm not really a JJH fan, but to speculate that JJH is in a salary war with his ex-costar Eun Hye just sounds really irresponsible considering that Eun Hye and other stars have also fought with the Olive Nine agency.

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I don't quite see how Sung Yuri is kinda like the female Song Seung Hun? Surely that's a bit of an insult to SSH?


Ahh, well, the in joke there is that Sung Yuri and SSH used to date. Big Smile Quite literally the mirror image of each other. ;)

SSH's acting is . . . well he's really pretty. Big Smile And when I mean pretty, sure Lee Jung Ki is pretty, but SSH is a beautiful, beautiful man. Autumn Tale has like three beautiful people and one "OMG I can't believe THAT was Miss Korea!!" SSH isn't well regarded as an actor -- his range is pretty limited; when he plays leads, he tends to disappear. Part of it is casting; he's much better playing aggressive alpha male characters, just as Sung Yuri's acting was much better when she played Bo Ra. And it needs to be said -- he has one or two facial expressions, but they are facial expressions chiselled by a god. So that's okay -- I like SSH a lot, and I can't wait for his comeback project. Big Smile

Given the short, fickle life of K-pop, many singers transition into acting, especially into romantic comedy roles. But, almost without exception, they have to work against the preception of not being a real actor/actress, driven by antis carried over from their pop star days. A lot of it is about winning over the female viewing audience, which is done through rom-coms. Eun Hye has a strong, loyal female following; Sung Yuri doesn't.
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Wait a minute....Yu-mi played by Han Na Na was Miss Korea? LOL! What were they thinking? Give me Honey Lee any day! Thanks for that bit of very interesting trivia, I was never aware of it before. Well actually, even if someone told me, I would've said they're lying. But Wiki must be right...it always is ;)

And erm.....the clues regarding you-know-what that you scattered in your previous post was a bit too subtle. Stop talking in riddles. I need something that S-P-E-L-L-S I-T O-U-T. Smile

Otherwise, thank you for your wonderful insight on K-dramas. I've enjoyed reading many of your posts. Hey, we might have another 'Mr. X' on our hands. Or is that 'Miss. X'? Big Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Recent dramabeans entry on Hong Gil Don

http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/11/sneak-peek-a-different-kind-of-hong-gil-dong/

Love the photos of Kang Ji Hwan and Sung Yu Ri. I'm all about fusion sageuks, but I think this is the first emo K-drama ever!! Love the goffff bangs KJH!!! Big Smile

As a side note, I totally applaud KBS's recent run of fusion dramas (and Capital Scandal IS good!), but dude one of them HAS to earn >10 ratings. Hopefully this is the one to break their year long cold streak.
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@belleza.. I really like Kang Ji Hwan acting in capital scandal & I really expect a lot from him in this drama.. Smile

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You know -- I have to confess, I've never watch a Hong Sisters rom-com before. Should I start on My Girl or Fantasy Couple?

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You know, it turns out that, before moving to TV, KJH was a popular musical theatre actor. He apparently switched because, well, that's where the money is. Big Smile

His most popular role is opposite Han Hye-Jin (of ju-MONG! fame) in Be Strong Geum Soon. I liked Capital Scandal, but I didn't like some of the casting; to me, Han Hye-Jin would have been a perfect choice for Han Ji Min's character. CS doens't have so much fire and ice as it has fire and "frown." Big Smile

Most Korean actors emphasize a naturalistic (i.e. learn from doing soaps) approach to acting, emphasizing their personality. But KJH actually has real training, and it shows in his precise comic timing and the utter ease he is at switching between broad screwball to charged, fiery performances. KH plays broad, but he doesn't fuzzy the details. And he's one of the few actors (Jang Hyuk is another) in that age group who acts with a real temper, but in a way that conveys genuine sincerity rather than aggression.

He's probably my favorite male lead performance this year, just because it's so rare to see "big" acting in Korean non-sageuks. He is PERFECT for this kind of drama.

The real catch-22 is Sung Yu Ri, but I LOVE her hair! Big Smile Give her some eyeliner and put on some New Order, and you have the next Damo. ;) I'm watching Thousand Years of Love, and besides being distracted by her "old"(?) nose (she had work done, but I forgot what), I could see her play her role in this same way. Actually just the side of Sung Yu Ri taking out baddies like Jumong is worth watching too. Big Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:05 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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You know -- I have to confess, I've never watch a Hong Sisters rom-com before. Should I start on My Girl or Fantasy Couple?


Do it in chronological order IMO. Start with DGCH Smile No, if you can only watch one, then definitely go for My Girl.

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The real catch-22 is Sung Yu Ri, but I LOVE her hair! Big Smile Give her some eyeliner and put on some New Order, and you have the next Damo. ;) I'm watching Thousand Years of Love, and besides being distracted by her "old"(?) nose (she had work done, but I forgot what), I could see her play her role in this same way. Actually just the side of Sung Yu Ri taking out baddies like Jumong is worth watching too. Big Smile




She reminds me a bit of Tifa Lockheart from FFVII in that pic, and yeah, her hair looks great. I didn't know she had some work done though, but more importantly, I can't believe you're watching 1000 Years of Crap Tongue
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She reminds me a bit of Tifa Lockheart from FFVII in that pic, and yeah, her hair looks great. I didn't know she had some work done though, but more importantly, I can't believe you're watching 1000 Years of Crap


The show's amazing! She kills like 20 people at once (with nary a stain on her hangbok!), but she rolls up like a scared little puppy when she discovers the horror of TV. Ahhhhhhhh It's a pretty good "Taiwanese idol drama." The 12 year old in me squeals with delight! Big Smile

Yeah, Sung Yu Ri's had a bit of work done on her post-debut, but I forgot whether it was the jawline or the nose. And her eyes in Thousand made me do a double-take, but I'd imagine those were "hers" at least prior to Fin-Kl. I mean, all real minor though, nothing like Fany's "Odelay vato!!" transformation. Wow. Korean surgeons are awesome.
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She reminds me a bit of Tifa Lockheart from FFVII in that pic, and yeah, her hair looks great. I didn't know she had some work done though, but more importantly, I can't believe you're watching 1000 Years of Crap


The show's amazing! She kills like 20 people at once (with nary a stain on her hangbok!), but she rolls up like a scared little puppy when she discovers the horror of TV. Ahhhhhhhh It's a pretty good "Taiwanese idol drama." The 12 year old in me squeals with delight! Big Smile
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I'm watching next. I just hope it's not as long and draggy as the title suggests Tongue
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See, my hunch is that if you survive the first two episodes of Thousand Year of Love (which is godawful -- it's like a homage to 80s wuxia made by broke college film grads for Youtube!!), you might actually like this show.

I'm almost halfway through -- this show isn't actually good, but the humor is genuinely . . . wrong. Big Smile Essentially a typical scene goes like this . . .

Stranger 1: This **** is crazy!
Stranger 2: This **** is an idiot!
Sung Yuri: *pouts* *cries a little*
Stranger 1: Yeah, but she's really adorable.
Stranger 2: **** *is* cute
Sung Yuri: *brightens up*
Stranger 1/2: Ahhhhhhh

This is played over and over again, and yeah the misogyny is definitely there. (There's one scene where our hapless princess is a go-go dancer . . .) Seriously, this is maybe the first Korean romance show I've seen that was marketed for girls, but written for men. I mean, I should be really offended with this show, but it's really funny when you watch it this way. Big Smile
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