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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Here's a device I'm looking into getting:

http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/divx-player-usb-hdd-enclosure-with-display/

I like the concept:

- Can host a built-in hard disk
- Plays most of the current codecs and formats
- Supports many of the soft subtitle formats

Only thing it doesn't have is HDMI or s-video output. But whoopie big deal! It is still much better than burning disks. I need to do more research...

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Is this a HDTV?


The DVD player doesn't set what is or isn't HDTV. The media itself does. If you have a VIDEO_TS formatted DVD video in HDTV format, the DVD player will play the video in that format. This device is capable to playing both 4:3 and 16:9 video, from the data I've read so far. I'm going to go ahead and purchase this device. It's quite cheap, so it'll be interesting to see what this thing can do.

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EDIT - Just ordered it. Sheesh, $35 fricking dollars just for shipping. Still, if this box works to my expectations, I'll be one happy groinkster.


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Rasckita wrote:
My TV is an old Sharp (21 inches screen). I think it has around 8 years old. Big Smile lol
When burning dvds I always have to add an additional black border to the video because of overscan problems! :/

I would prefer not to spend the price of a computer to do this, so I'm trying to search for a cheaper solution.


the cheapest retail divx player that i've seen is the Magnavox MWD7006 at walmart for 37.73... plays avi files only and has srt support (but the subs are small, but i have a work around for that) composite, component, and s-video outputs. using a divx dvd player is great cuz u dont have to reencode anything, jus backup it up on a dvdr and play, unless u need to do something with the subs (see below)

i have this machine set up to a 50" toshiba rear projection screen with component cables in my L.A. place and plays fine (like a dvd, if the episode is widescreen, it plays with the borders automatically) . I'll try to bring it down for an quality/performance check using a similar tv set (magnavox 20in with s-video) and post screenshots of my findings.

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worried about the small hard to read subs that the machine provides, here's my work around:

use divxmuxwizz (find it on divx.com, must have current divx codec installed) to integrate the subs on to the avi file that will have a bigger font like this sample:


takes about 3mins to encode and using the program is pretty self explanatory, but if u have any question feel free to pm...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Here's another device I might consider evaluating:

http://www.pc4usa.com/DetailSales.asp?productID=1121&parCat=&Scatn=19&Catn=6

This includes the 500GB hard disk. It also has an Ethernet interface, and it appears that it is used to access content from your PC and play it on the TV (you can buy this without the HD, and use the PC to store the video content.)

Interesting...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:54 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

groink wrote:
Here's another device I might consider evaluating:

http://www.pc4usa.com/DetailSales.asp?productID=1121&parCat=&Scatn=19&Catn=6

This includes the 500GB hard disk. It also has an Ethernet interface, and it appears that it is used to access content from your PC and play it on the TV (you can buy this without the HD, and use the PC to store the video content.)

Interesting...

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sweet, it has component outputs!!! i wonder how this compares (omitting the hard drive)with slingbox? or dare i say apple TV? Whistling
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:03 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Like u said earlier, u can connect ur ipod video to the t.v. and watch it. I do that a lot and it works! Big Smile Hope this helps...
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Like u said earlier, u can connect ur ipod video to the t.v. and watch it. I do that a lot and it works! Big Smile Hope this helps...


yeah but don't you have to convert to ipod video first? Whistling Mr. Green
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groink wrote:
Here's another device I might consider evaluating:

http://www.pc4usa.com/DetailSales.asp?productID=1121&parCat=&Scatn=19&Catn=6

This includes the 500GB hard disk. It also has an Ethernet interface, and it appears that it is used to access content from your PC and play it on the TV (you can buy this without the HD, and use the PC to store the video content.)

Interesting...

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FYI (i learned this the hard way)

this thing uses NDAS, which means your computer (or any other computer on the network) has to install a driver in order to see it on a network (unlike a true NAS, where it automatically appears under the share)

anyways, not a bad device... yikes, but $255???

hey, you know there are divx dvd players with usb input Big Smile (dvp5960/dvp5982)

also, im considering getting a divx dvd player w/ wireless... (around $90)
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hey, you know there are divx dvd players with usb input Big Smile (dvp5960/dvp5982)

The one reason that turned me off from the DVP series (or any DVD player with USB) is that my USB drives (I regularly purchase the WD MyBook drives - currently have six of these) are all either NTFS or FAT32. The DVD players I read about support only FAT, which is what thumb drives use. That's why my impression was that the DVD/USB supported only flash devices like thumb drives, sdram cards, etc. Whereas the two non-DVD devices I mentioned can handle both FAT32 and NTFS. There are also limitations to FAT, such as files larger than 2GB; many of my files are larger than 2GB (I save all my caps to their original MPEG-2 720x480 format.) Even though the disc player portion supports UDF, it still doesn't help me regarding the FAT limitation on non-optical media.

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hey, you know there are divx dvd players with usb input Big Smile (dvp5960/dvp5982)

The one reason that turned me off from the DVP series (or any DVD player with USB) is that my USB drives (I regularly purchase the WD MyBook drives - currently have six of these) are all either NTFS or FAT32. The DVD players I read about support only FAT, which is what thumb drives use. That's why my impression was that the DVD/USB supported only flash devices like thumb drives, sdram cards, etc. Whereas the two non-DVD devices I mentioned can handle both FAT32 and NTFS. There are also limitations to FAT, such as files larger than 2GB; many of my files are larger than 2GB (I save all my caps to their original MPEG-2 720x480 format.) Even though the disc player portion supports UDF, it still doesn't help me regarding the FAT limitation on non-optical media.

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whoops, actually that comment wasn't meant for you, it was more for the casual people (you know, the type that say, downloads weekly eps of hanazakari no kimitachi e on a thumbdrive), etc...

yeah, power users. need to beat that ntfs/fat32 limitation. if you got the cash, maybe you could fork some major dough for a ps3, because through the miraculous advent of firmware updates, its actually becoming one serious media player (you can either use Nero Vision to stream videos, or get a DLNA drive like a buffalo terastation, twonkyvision or whatever for streaming)
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i say we all collaborate to build a "D-A" standalone device that would take care of all our needs. just a thought Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Great thread. I was looking for something like this. I have an ipod video, so can someone tell me how I can play videos without converting to mp4 format...that takes forever.

I am interested in getting divx player and an s-video card too. sounds interesting.
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itsukiD wrote:
Rasckita wrote:
My TV is an old Sharp (21 inches screen). I think it has around 8 years old. Big Smile lol
When burning dvds I always have to add an additional black border to the video because of overscan problems! :/

I would prefer not to spend the price of a computer to do this, so I'm trying to search for a cheaper solution.


the cheapest retail divx player that i've seen is the Magnavox MWD7006 at walmart for 37.73... plays avi files only and has srt support (but the subs are small, but i have a work around for that) composite, component, and s-video outputs. using a divx dvd player is great cuz u dont have to reencode anything, jus backup it up on a dvdr and play, unless u need to do something with the subs (see below)

i have this machine set up to a 50" toshiba rear projection screen with component cables in my L.A. place and plays fine (like a dvd, if the episode is widescreen, it plays with the borders automatically) . I'll try to bring it down for an quality/performance check using a similar tv set (magnavox 20in with s-video) and post screenshots of my findings.

*hint*
worried about the small hard to read subs that the machine provides, here's my work around:

use divxmuxwizz (find it on divx.com, must have current divx codec installed) to integrate the subs on to the avi file that will have a bigger font like this sample:


takes about 3mins to encode and using the program is pretty self explanatory, but if u have any question feel free to pm...


hi itsukiD, can u help me with the link to the DivxMuxWizz? I cant find it on the divx page. Coan u help me find it? Plus what do u mean that i have to convert the file extension to avi after encoding it? u mean it will become harsubbed? THanks very much! Big Smile


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Do you have a TiVO? I use a TiVO with the TiVO TOGO desktop 2.3 software. You can watch video files, listen to your music & view your pictures in your computer on your TV.
- Set up the Tivo on your home network (you can use it on a wireless network - you just need a wireless connector for the Tivo)
- Install the Tivo software on your computer, it sets up a server on your computer and all you need is to have the video files in the mpg format and you can watch it on the TV connected to the TiVO.

See http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/domore/tivotogo/index.html

It is really easy and you use any video converter program to convert the files to mpg
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itsukiD wrote:
i say we all collaborate to build a "D-A" standalone device that would take care of all our needs. just a thought Mr. Green


heh, yeah, a dvd/divx/xvid/h264/x264/hdd-swappable/networked/wireless/ez-firmware/codec-updates set top box with component/s-video/hdmi. lets do it! pinch
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTPC

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