[Suggestion] Out with the old in with the New??!!

would fansubbers/encoder want to change the old *.avi containers and move on to *.mkv??

i think this would be much better than hardsubbing the videos because it wouldnt take much time to just add a subtitle to the video using virtualdubmod (you would just need to direct stream the videos)

mkv also supports H.264 and Ac3 == good quality & small file size

i know many people prefer using .avi since its been around so quite a while...but thats the problem...to encode using a x264 codec into a avi is hacked...sometimes i get problems playing it. the good thing about the .mkv container is that it can support all multimedia files.
im just saying...using this container would have many benefits (chapters..etc) Big Smile

++i would want to hear your thoughts about this topic..++

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:06 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

i did download an anime once in mkv format, faced a bit of problems @ first n did some search until i found the right codecs to play it... so i guess there's no prob with it
but I prefer stickin to avi... coz change usually lead to problems, u'll find many users having problems playig the file n it'll take a while till every1 gets used to it.
+ i'm not sure if u can write a mkv file directly on a dvd... can u?? scratch

Well ya maybe it's easier from subber's point of view, but i think avi is more handy... besides, i dnt see any problem with the Avi (divx) format... it has a decent quality.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:59 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I think you should have a 3rd option on the poll saying that "You don't mind either format".

I remember when subbers started releasing anime on MKV and OGM I was against it until like Ore-Sama I got the right codecs and a new laptop which played the files without any probs. Although I still archive most of my stuff in AVI I don't mind either.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:58 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Subbers are interested in having the largest potential audience possible for their work. Currently that means one divx5 video stream (with a pixel aspect ratio of 1:1) and one mp3/ac3 audio stream in an avi container. I would be most happy with h264/ac3/ass in an mkv myself, but that's still maybe two years away (because most computers worldwide are still too pokey to play h264), and something even better might come along before then.

Remember, we have a worldwide audience, and many fans can't afford hot boxes, so consider your peers around the globe. Fansubbing is one of those areas where thinking globally and acting accordingly is the only option.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Just a thought... Drama viewers should not have to work hard in order to watch dramas off D-Addicts. Assume the worst - a user who uses something like Windows 98 on a Pentium. In computing, you should never allow documents like video to drive you into purchasing new equipment just to run it. As a content provider, and just like Pokute mentioned, your goal is to reach the masses - and NOT attempt to push new technology and expect people to adapt.

Once again, drama fans are simple people. The demographics I've seen with D-Addicts are:

- Students in their late teens to early 20s.
- Little or no money to spend outside of necessities.
- Uses equipment owned by someone else, such as parents.
- Do not have admin access to PC, or isn't allowed to make any changes.
- Uses bandwidth that is limiting - either in bandwidth or port usage via firewall.
- Equipment is not kept up to the latest operating system, codecs, patches, etc.
- Level of drama fan is beginner - has very little computing savvy.

These demographics are far less than, for example, a Japanese anime fan. Please keep these points in mind.

--- groink

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I wonder what tomorrow's topic will be... Lately we've been through codecs, filenames and now containers.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

If you can ignore 99% of what people tell you, I can ignore 100% of what you tell me. I beat you by 1%, so give up, I win. You can't ignore me 101%... Haha!

Man, it's so hard to get down to this level... My knuckles are taking a beating dragging on the asphalt like this.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

i fixed the poll for you.

i personally prefer the current avi format since i like the convenience of moving them to my creative zen video player or burning to disk to watch on my dvp642.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:21 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I agree with pokute, you shoudl try to reach the widest possible audience. Eventually everyone will switch but there's no need to rush.