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geminihc Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Total posts: 9 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: Why are long hair actors popular?! EW!! Post Rating: 0 |
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I am a 24 yr japanese female. i am somewhat repulsed still at the percentage of popular long hair actors in all asian cultures, japan, taiwan, korean and HK (maybe less here). personally, i do not find these "long hair" actors not attractive.maybe i'm a weird girl, but seriosuly what is so good about long hair... to me.. its just too femine. i prefer the more manly looking short to medium hair..
i am an intl student in canada, its good that at least here, not as many guys on the street do not have long hair. but still quite a few. back whe i was younger, there used to be more popular short hair actors, but now... there's very few left!
can anyone post some pictures of good lookng asian actors (doesnt matter where) with shorter hair styles!?
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BonnY Joined: 20 Dec 2006 Total posts: 41 Age: 19 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:44 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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yeah, me , too! i do also prefer men wiht short hair.
but three points:
first: in europe, there are most men with short hair, because it´s common for the punks and rockers to have long hair
second : long hair suits really beautiful men ( well, most are beautiful)
third: i think, that asian men have smooth and soft features like women.
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I'm with the creator of this topic... I am totally anti-metrosexual.
--- groink
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malay_tiger Joined: 02 May 2006 Total posts: 24 Location: Malaysia Age: 22 Gender: Male |
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FruitChaat Joined: 19 Dec 2005 Total posts: 535 Location: USA Age: 18 Gender: Female |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:30 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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malay_tiger- actually koki did have long hair for a while before he finally got sick of it and shaved it off
and ueda from KAT-TUN entered the company bald, though i don't ebelieve there are any pictures of him from back then
and yamap has actually stated the desire to shave his head though he says everyone tells him not to
anyways, when i first got into asian entertainment i wasn't a fan of the long hair either. but then i changed my mind and decided that on them long hair can look good. however every time i see a caucasian male with long hair it's such a turn off.
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:52 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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The anime and manga are definitely the root of the trend. Like I've mentioned in other topics, I believe the geinokai is behind a conspiracy of sorts where they're using anime/manga to attract the fans of that material towards live entertainment. JE figured this out a long time ago. The TV networks figured it out by the late 1990s. And everyone else just followed suit. In all forms of marketing, the number-one formula for marketing success is to attract consumers using tactics they feel comfortable with - marketing through association.
Is it a long-term trend? In Asia it is. In the West, I don't think so because consumers there aren't as hooked on feminine looking guys, as they're not as exposed to bishonen like the Japanese. As for South Korea, just give them a few more months.
Long hair is one thing. But for a male to stay in the bathroom for a long period of time grooming themselves - I'm sorry but IMHO that is a feminine trait. My personal appearance takes less than five minutes of preparation in the morning. It lasts all day, and I'm quite successful with it.
--- groink
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Néa Vanille Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Total posts: 49 Location: Seoul, South Korea (whooooza!) Gender: Female |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:13 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Not claiming to be an expert on the topic, but I believe in Asia there has always been a more feminine ideal for men than we've enjoyed here in the West and the way a man's masculinity and beauty is measured is very different indeed. I've read many times that in Japan and Korea, there is the ancient ideal of the man who is more beautiful than a woman and indeed the Koreans have a word to describe these effeminate men - 꽃미남, meaning flower pretty boy. I also heard that, when one reads ancient Japanese literature, one will quite frequently stumble upon very feminine and extremely beautiful men, whereas there is no classic Western literature (that I know of) that stresses such an ideal. Thus I think it's not just a recent phenomenon, but something engrained in Eastern Asian culture that disappears and re-surfaces in regular intervals.
Speaking from my own experience, I must say that in the beginning I was quite puzzled when Japanese/Korean men would so honestly talk about another man's beauty, not even being ashamed of calling another man cute. In the West, many men are inclined to say, "I'm not gay but I guess XX would be quite attractive to women" or similar things and it is generally considered a taboo to openly talk about another man's attractiveness. Asian men, in my experience, are also much more likely to wear clothes that no Western man would ever touch unless held on gunpoint, including, but not limited to, pink shirts, extremely tight clothes and, yes, yellow shirts with cute monkeys on them. I saw quite a lot of such guys in Asia and in the beginning, it puzzled me. Now, I've learned to find it attractive and just accept it as part of who they are.
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malay_tiger Joined: 02 May 2006 Total posts: 24 Location: Malaysia Age: 22 Gender: Male |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| groink wrote: | The anime and manga are definitely the root of the trend. Like I've mentioned in other topics, I believe the geinokai is behind a conspiracy of sorts where they're using anime/manga to attract the fans of that material towards live entertainment. JE figured this out a long time ago. The TV networks figured it out by the late 1990s. And everyone else just followed suit. In all forms of marketing, the number-one formula for marketing success is to attract consumers using tactics they feel comfortable with - marketing through association.
Is it a long-term trend? In Asia it is. In the West, I don't think so because consumers there aren't as hooked on feminine looking guys, as they're not as exposed to bishonen like the Japanese. As for South Korea, just give them a few more months.
Long hair is one thing. But for a male to stay in the bathroom for a long period of time grooming themselves - I'm sorry but IMHO that is a feminine trait. My personal appearance takes less than five minutes of preparation in the morning. It lasts all day, and I'm quite successful with it.
--- groink |
at last, groink have spoken a lot (typing a lot )
groink, I am totally agree with you
that's right, it is all about marketing strategy.. it's all about business, if the ratings go up for the drama, they will have more advertisement company pay the tv station.. it's all about the money.. JE was built to make money, profit for the company and their target, surely, it is the girls..
from what I know, Japanese are really successful in entertainment industry, there was a concert perform by Glay, held on the Japanese airport [the fact is : 200,000 tickets sold out in just 2 hours], the girls attend the concert really crying a lot when Glay sing "I'm in Love"..
usually, FEMALE are born to be beautiful, caring.. MALE are born to be a leader..
if male have a very long hair, and take a very long time to do the make up..
but in my honest opinion MANGA/ANIME character really look beautiful.. but the most important is the attitude, one of the reason I really like to watch Jdorama is that they really have good messages to the human, it was not just entertainment
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Genmai_cha Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Total posts: 103 Location: Bay Area, Ca Gender: Male |
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malay_tiger Joined: 02 May 2006 Total posts: 24 Location: Malaysia Age: 22 Gender: Male |
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malay_tiger Joined: 02 May 2006 Total posts: 24 Location: Malaysia Age: 22 Gender: Male |
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Bibliofil Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Total posts: 22 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I have been in love with a man whose hair was waist-long (longer then mine) and it did not threaten my femininity. For me it was a sad day when he cut his hair...
So some general comments...pretty boys are truly not that common in western culture, although the anicent greeks mention some butiful ones. In the classical literature we also have Samson, a long-haired guy. (he was super strong due to his long hair). In "A thousend and one nights" (persian/arabic)there is a story about a truly beautiful man and woman living in different countries. The djinns bring them together to compare them but cannot decide who is the prettier. So the djinns wake up first one and then the other. The man thinks the woman beautiful but does not do anything. The woman when awake showers the man with kisses, so it is decided that the man was the better looking of the two....
I dont think that the long hair is from manga...I think it is older then that. In wester culture I think it is "rebellous and dangerous" , in asian "noble" (look at Samurai, to be able to do that topknot you need to have some hair...) I guess long hair took longer to groom only the rich who dont need to work physically can have it...
Anyway, after all this rambling, I guess my opinion is that it does not matter if a guy has long or short hair, thats not where his masculinity is located. But I agree that anyone (man or woman) who hogs the bathroom for eons of time in the morning is an annoying person!!!
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ervingeoffrey Joined: 22 Dec 2005 Total posts: 69 Location: Galactica Age: 22 Gender: Male |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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geminihc, the best combination is :
- Man with short hair and Woman with short hair too.
Why? already for hygiene it is much more practical and two if you are really handsome, short hair or long hair , the result is the same. Why tire itself with all its disadvantage.
The problem it is that very little of people are in this case (or they do not see it…), so with long hair , we emphasize our beauty, but it is not true , it is the same thing with the make-up.
It is the life, it is done like that, so for your question, why they have long hair? Because with short one, they are not handsome ....
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Rasckita Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Total posts: 386 Age: 21 Gender: Female |
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ethidda Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Total posts: 451 Gender: Female |
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Wait, are you talking about long hair or loooooooong hair? Because I think if guys have nice, soft hair, they should grow it out a bit (like 3-4 inches or so) so that the girl can run her fingers through his hair. But if it's looooooooooong hair, then I don't think it's attractive. The only exception being if it's a period drama, because nobody cuts their hair in Chinese period drama (since it was cutting off a God-give gift and all that).
On the other hand, I don't think that short hair is and more hygienic than long hair, and it certainly doesn't take longer to take care of. I have hair that goes down to my butt and it takes me 15 min. to shower and 10 min. to get ready in the morning, including getting dressed and brushing my teeth. It's true that I don't do make up, but I'm not a sloppy dresser either. Most days, I wear heels.
Anyways... I think that long hair is okay. At least, it's infinitely better compared to big beards. I would consider dating a guy with long hair. I would NEVER, EVER date somebody with a big beard.
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