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pokute Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Total posts: 1313 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Sun May 27, 2007 4:08 pm Post subject: A slap from Mitsuwa Post Rating: 0 |
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I was shopping in the Mitsuwa Market in Little Tokyo on Friday, and was in the middle of filling a cart with the odd cold drinks that are uniquely available there (grapefruit drink, peach drink that seems to have peach fuzz added... Etc.), and I noticed a young Japanese woman staring at me with a look of abject horror on her face. She fled rapidly when I noticed her, and returned with the store security guard, pointing me out as the object of her concern, and he immediately proceeded, grinning, to force me from my position in front of the various flavors of Ramune so as to allow the young woman to make her selection free from the gaijin menace. The guard did this without uttering a word, and evidently enjoyed himself immensely. I went immediately to the store manager, Mr. Kobayashi (a man I have hailed by name many times, since I shop at the store every week, spending a LOT of money each visit), and complained that I had been harrassed by the guard. Mr. Kobayashi smiled broadly and told me "He is doing his job!". I asked what that meant: "What job is that, harrassing your regular customers?!". He laughed and said "Yes, yes!". I said I felt I deserved an apology from the guard, and he explained to me that he could not ask the guard to apologise for doing his job.
I have done my best to contact the corporate overlords of Mitsuwa Market, and hope to receive a reply from them soon. In the meantime I am really, seriously annoyed. I am going to do all my shopping at Marukai from now on.
I have been shopping at that market for a very long time... Since long before it was Mitsuwa (It was Yaohan until about 10 years ago), and have only ever had very friendly interactions with the staff until Friday, when they closed ranks against the evil gaijin who was presenting an imminent threat to the well-being of the community by buying all the soft drinks.
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Liantasse Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Total posts: 465 |
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pokute Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Total posts: 1313 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 2:48 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| I feel like I was arrested, jailed, and then told "Oh well, so what if you're not guilty... What if you really did do it?". Obviously, I was living in some cloud-cuckoo-land to believe that I could shop at a Japanese market indefinitely without overstaying my welcome. When I think about the number of times I have taken members of my own ethnic group down a peg for "closing ranks", I feel like a fool. Maybe I need to go kill some Palestinian children to regain my own ethnic identity? Let's all revert to type and kill each other ASAP before some other fool makes a similar mistake.
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mandaraya Joined: 17 Jun 2006 Total posts: 45 Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:03 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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wow, that's kinda odd ..
btw, i was just there last week, (monday).
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Néa Vanille Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Total posts: 49 Location: Seoul, South Korea (whooooza!) Gender: Female |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| This might seem totally out of line and you may consider it way too heavy, but have you considered suing the store? I assume that you mean Little Tokyo in LA; this kind of behaviour sounds highly illegal in the United States and it sounds like you could sue that guard for illegal detention and discrimination. If you don't want to go that far, maybe send that story to a newspaper? This behaviour was definitely unacceptable and I wish you all the best in getting that apology.
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aatm Joined: 28 Jan 2007 Total posts: 110 Location: Orange County Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:18 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| not sure how, but if there's anyway to do so, get everything documented on paper. write letters to the store manager, request apologies, make copies of anything that comes back, then when there's sufficient evidence, then commence the suing. That's not right what they did, and makes me a little wary of going over to the Mitsuwa over here.
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2triky Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Total posts: 265 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:38 am Post subject: Re: A slap from Mitsuwa Post Rating: 0 |
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| pokute wrote: | I was shopping in the Mitsuwa Market in Little Tokyo on Friday, and was in the middle of filling a cart with the odd cold drinks that are uniquely available there (grapefruit drink, peach drink that seems to have peach fuzz added... Etc.), and I noticed a young Japanese woman staring at me with a look of abject horror on her face. She fled rapidly when I noticed her, and returned with the store security guard, pointing me out as the object of her concern, and he immediately proceeded, grinning, to force me from my position in front of the various flavors of Ramune so as to allow the young woman to make her selection free from the gaijin menace. The guard did this without uttering a word, and evidently enjoyed himself immensely. I went immediately to the store manager, Mr. Kobayashi (a man I have hailed by name many times, since I shop at the store every week, spending a LOT of money each visit), and complained that I had been harrassed by the guard. Mr. Kobayashi smiled broadly and told me "He is doing his job!". I asked what that meant: "What job is that, harrassing your regular customers?!". He laughed and said "Yes, yes!". I said I felt I deserved an apology from the guard, and he explained to me that he could not ask the guard to apologise for doing his job.
I have done my best to contact the corporate overlords of Mitsuwa Market, and hope to receive a reply from them soon. In the meantime I am really, seriously annoyed. I am going to do all my shopping at Marukai from now on.
I have been shopping at that market for a very long time... Since long before it was Mitsuwa (It was Yaohan until about 10 years ago), and have only ever had very friendly interactions with the staff until Friday, when they closed ranks against the evil gaijin who was presenting an imminent threat to the well-being of the community by buying all the soft drinks. |
So what exactly drew the ire of this woman? Just the fact that you were a non-Japanese customer shopping in the store? Sounds like she over-reacted, to put it mildly.
I've been to Mitsuwa millions of times, both in L.A. and in Torrance and have never had a problem at either location.
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pokute Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Total posts: 1313 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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She wanted to get a drink from the cold drink section. I was buying a whole shopping cart full of drinks from that section, and she could not bring herself to either: A. Step up to the cold drink section while I was there - B. Wait until I was through. I can only imagine what she said to the guard (and the store manager?) to get them to strongarm me. But at the same time, regardless of what she said, I had nearly $100 worth of soft drinks loaded into my basket at the time... Just what did they make of THAT? And I purchased the cart full of drinks during the time that I was searching for Kobayashi-san to report the bad behavior of the guard.
I am considering whether legal action is appropriate. I wonder how far the staff of Mitsuwa is willing to go to defend the action of the guard and manager, without having any idea whether there was ANY reason for their action? The entire Little Tokyo Plaza depends upon the market to bring in business... My favorite sushi bar is in there... I would much rather pursue this as a personal vendetta against that ass of a manager, rather than risk fighting with all of Little Tokyo.
@2triky - Yeah, I have shopped there FOREVER (since the Yaohan Plaza was built!). I have lunch at the lunch counter there with my daughter at least twice every month. I have talked to the manager about products (asking for melon Ramune, etc.) any number of times... I spend an ungodly amount of money there... But, I'm obviously NOT JAPANESE.
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2triky Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Total posts: 265 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 7:23 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| pokute wrote: | | She wanted to get a drink from the cold drink section. I was buying a whole shopping cart full of drinks from that section, and she could not bring herself to either: A. Step up to the cold drink section while I was there - B. Wait until I was through. I can only imagine what she said to the guard (and the store manager?) to get them to strongarm me. But at the same time, regardless of what she said, I had nearly $100 worth of soft drinks loaded into my basket at the time... Just what did they make of THAT? And I purchased the cart full of drinks during the time that I was searching for Kobayashi-san to report the bad behavior of the guard. |
Well given that detailed accounting of the events, it seems quite obvious that her distress was uncalled for and unfounded. Certainly, without trying to sound stereotypical, you would think your longstanding patronage of the store would have given pause to the staff (i.e. Kobayashi). The whole turn of events was unfortunate and unecessary.
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I am considering whether legal action is appropriate. I wonder how far the staff of Mitsuwa is willing to go to defend the action of the guard and manager, without having any idea whether there was ANY reason for their action? The entire Little Tokyo Plaza depends upon the market to bring in business... My favorite sushi bar is in there... I would much rather pursue this as a personal vendetta against that ass of a manager, rather than risk fighting with all of Little Tokyo. |
Yes I, too, am quite familar with that plaza. Ever since the Japanese economic bubble bursted about a decade or so ago....that shopping mall died. I mean without Mitsuwa there are very few noteworthy establishments to speak of. Hell they even shut down the Ginza-ya bakery on the same floor as Mitsuwa recently. I know the sushi restaurant you referred to - Sushi Go55. I've been there as well. I prefer Hamakawa on Second and Central but that's here nor there. I do like the izakaya Haru Ulala a lot though, which is owned by the same proprietors as Sushi Go55
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@2triky - Yeah, I have shopped there FOREVER (since the Yaohan Plaza was built!). I have lunch at the lunch counter there with my daughter at least twice every month. I have talked to the manager about products (asking for melon Ramune, etc.) any number of times... I spend an ungodly amount of money there... But, I'm obviously NOT JAPANESE. |
Damn, well the whole sorry chain of events is disturbing. I'm glad to hear your daughter wasn't with you when it happened...though I'm sure that's not much consolation. I have been victimized by similar attitudes in other places so I can say I sincerely empathize with you. Don't take it to heart too much. Such behavior is unjustified but hopefully it will not dampen your enthusiasm for Little Tokyo in general. As you said, you still have Marukai which recently moved to a bigger, nicer space in Weller Court.
Good luck, man.
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2triky Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Total posts: 265 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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double post.
Last edited by 2triky on Tue May 29, 2007 1:18 am; edited 1 time in total
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TIticamara Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Total posts: 404 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:07 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Some people are just plain rude no matter the nationality. If you opt for suing, first thing that comes into my mind is it going to be expensive? If its free by all means sue their ass.
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ruisu Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Total posts: 363 Location: I'm on your screen, taking up your pixels Gender: Male |
Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Sorry, where is Little Tokyo?
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pokute Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Total posts: 1313 Gender: Unknown |
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 12:30 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| ruisu wrote: | | Sorry, where is Little Tokyo? |
Ahaha! Little Tokyo is a part of Los Angeles. It has been a center of Japanese culture outside of Japan for about 100 years. At any given moment there are perhaps 2000 Japanese tourists and business people there. If you are wacko for Japanese culture, it is as close as you can get to Japan without going to Japan. It is a 10 minute drive from my home.
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ruisu Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Total posts: 363 Location: I'm on your screen, taking up your pixels Gender: Male |
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:02 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Wow...hmm, I thought this was in Japan, so I wasn't surprised at first. But in the US? That's shocking.
Hope it doesn't keep you from buying the stuff you like =/
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angelic.me Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Total posts: 47 Location: SVA Age: 22 Gender: Female |
Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:16 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| That is crazy. There got to be other non-Japanese people there at that time, how can they just pick out u and do that. That is so racial discrimination. This world is full of crazy ppl.
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