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Juken no Kamisama [Eng Subs] (rough) (Ep 4-10)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:27 am    Post subject: Juken no Kamisama [Eng Subs] (rough) (Ep 4-10)   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Had to provide a torrent because the files are too big to upload:

mod edit: torrent deleted

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Thanks to totoro008 who did an OCR on the original subs posted by Cynapse and converted them to .srt. These are unedited so if anyone is willing to edit, it will be appreciated. Thanks to totoro008 and Cynapse for the subs. Here's the link to the direct download for the .srt subs all in one .rar file.

http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/download.php?id=25678(unedited .srt subs by totoro008 converted from idx/sub to .srt by OCR. No edits done.)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:18 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Thanks to all who were responsible in making these subs available. The subs need editing no doubt, otherwise the timing is excellent ! salut
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Episode 1-3 are rip offs of Littlix! Subs translations without giving ANY credit whatsoever. I would like to ask for those episodes to be removed from the zip file. Converting Littlix! Subs subtitle files into any other format other than the official .ass is not allowed.

On another note, we've got a new translator for this project recently and we will slowly finish up Juken no Kamisama as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

While I had nothing to do with uploading these rough subs here myself, I can tell you that they are from a Chinese DVD set (I know because I've seen this set). As the other poster said, for the first 3 episodes, the Chinese company just stole the Littlex subs and used them on the DVD. After that, the subs were done "in-house" apparently, and not only is it pretty bad, but Chinese names were even substituted for Japanese (my guess is someone did the J-C translation first, then someone did a C-E translation from the Chinese subs). I agree of course that #1-#3 should be removed from here (they can be found in the proper place here, showing the proper credit).

And it is good news to hear that a new translator has been found and the project will not be dropped. It's a great show. Would love to see it with the quality of Eps 1-3!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:12 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Akaru wrote:
Converting Littlix! Subs subtitle files into any other format other than the official .ass is not allowed.
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"Not allowed"? Don't make me laugh. You are a theif. You are providing subtitles for illegally distributed copyrighted material (even if the copyright holders don't aggressively fight fansubbed shows getting out, they could). You are expanding on the intellectual property of others and allowing the redistribution of it to others. For you to turn around and claim that YOUR work is then "not allowed" to be modified and redistributed by anyone else is not only hypocritical, it is hilarious. If you don't respect the legal rights of the legal copyright holders, do you REALLY expect people who watch illegal downloads to respect your fansubs made to use with illegal downloads?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:14 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

bakaman wrote:
After that, the subs were done "in-house" apparently, and not only is it pretty bad


Actually, they are pretty good. Don't distract much at all from watching the series. If you think that they are "pretty bad", then you haven't seen "pretty bad" subs before-- such as subtiltes machine-translated into English from a Chinese translation of the original Japanese. THOSE are bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

The only people at fault is the company that took the fansubs and used it on their DVD so let's not start arguing over this. Cynapse was just being nice and sharing what he had. I have repacked the episodes and removed episode 1-3.

Raider73, please update the link to: http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/download.php?id=25678
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

cynapse wrote:
Akaru wrote:
Converting Littlix! Subs subtitle files into any other format other than the official .ass is not allowed.
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"Not allowed"? Don't make me laugh. You are a theif. You are providing subtitles for illegally distributed copyrighted material (even if the copyright holders don't aggressively fight fansubbed shows getting out, they could). You are expanding on the intellectual property of others and allowing the redistribution of it to others. For you to turn around and claim that YOUR work is then "not allowed" to be modified and redistributed by anyone else is not only hypocritical, it is hilarious. If you don't respect the legal rights of the legal copyright holders, do you REALLY expect people who watch illegal downloads to respect your fansubs made to use with illegal downloads?


at the very least it's not allowed to rip off a fansubber's work on d-addicts and upload it without permission...
so enough with the rudeness, thanks totoro008 for removing eps 1-3 and move along people...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: -1 Reply with quote

Totoro008 wrote:
The only people at fault is the company that took the fansubs and used it on their DVD so let's not start arguing over this.


My point is, when the whole fansubbing/fansub watching community is based on "disallowed" use of intellectual property, it is silly to complain that someone is doing something that is "not allowed" with your subtitles. They can illegally package and sell video, but should be stopped from packaging and selling someone else's subtitles with them?

What is "allowed" with watching Japanese TV series

1.) be in Japan, watch it as it is aired, with commercials intact
2.) rent or buy the official DVD, watching it only in the region for which the DVD is encoded.

That's it. Even fast-forwarding through commercials or importing DVDs from another region is "not allowed" under the terms that the content provider has set up. Wherther or not it is practical to try to enforce those conditions isn't relevant to the fact that those are the conditions under which you are supposed to use the content.

So, every one of us are "breaking the rules" in watching downloaded media. Writing fansubs for said media, even if you don't distribute the video itself, is obviously intended to make easier to enjoy said "disallowed" media. So when someone who does that comes along and claimes that it "isn't allowed" to modify or redistribute their fansubs, I have to laugh. If the downloading community has little enough respect for the studios, directors, writers, producers, actors, editors, distributers, sponsors, etc of the media you watch that you break THEIR rules, why the heck would you for a moment expect these same people to have respect for the fansubbers work and follow their "rules"?

I'm not saying don't steal media-- I've got hundreds of DVDs full of media I've stolen over the internet. I'm just saying call a spade a spade. I steal video from the internet, and modifiy and redistribute it as I please, and I steal subtitles from the internet and modify and redistribute them as I please.

If you release something onto the internet, you no longer have control of what other people will do with it. If you aren't willing for it to be concidered "public domain", and are doing it for ego/recognition rather than just to "give back" to the community, then you are guaranteed to be disappointed and disillusioned.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i don't know how many times we gotta rebutt that sentiment here before most people understand that d-addicts is in full support of fansubbers...
at least on d-addicts fansubbers do very well have complete control over whether a ripped-off sub stays or goes...
now seriously, enough already, this isn't anything we all haven't heard x amount of times before...

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:32 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Laugh

Hey guys don't fight, we are all friends and we enjoy a lot the j-dramas!

it's a lucky event that finally the episode 4-10 are now translated so we can watch to the final, after a long delay .

So the translators can procede to new amazing series !!!

It's a joyful thing, don't you agree?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

thanx for ep4-10, also thanx to littleix for 1-3. the littleix ones are always great quality and when their complete versions are available i'll get them 2. its a great show so thanx to all subbers and providers Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Milano wrote:
Laugh
Hey guys don't fight, we are all friends and we enjoy a lot the j-dramas!
it's a lucky event that finally the episode 4-10 are now translated so we can watch to the final, after a long delay .
So the translators can procede to new amazing series !!!
It's a joyful thing, don't you agree?


I totally agree with you.
Thanks for cynapse ep 4-10 and team littleix for 1-3. Big Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:41 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Thank you moderator and Totoro008 as well, and everyone else for your support.
Just a note though, the name of our group is Littlix, not Littleix :p The e is not there xD

Some people just don't seem to understand how hard it is to get subs out, and that it's things like this that might cause fansubbers to stop doing something. Think about it - it's not about the credit or whatever, but it's like as if you and your team wrote an essay and someone in your class thinks it's good, copies it, claims it's his and sells it for money. It's bad enough that we get no share of the money, but totally stealing it and distributing it as if they actually worked on it? Think about it before replying, cynapse. Do you think ANYONE would continue to provide subs anymore, and if the D-Addicts community can still continue to exist?
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