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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Can somone please explain the last scene from episode 5?

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why were the two hunters at the staff meeting??



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Can somone please explain the last scene from episode 5?

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why were the two hunters at the staff meeting??



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umm..have you actually been following the storyline of the series? lol
they finally took over the hotel..they got the majority shareholding of the company therefore pretty much own it now

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ooo...
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i don't remember them actually taking over...i saw them driving the stock up so holders would cash out.

are you suuurree they took over already? Crazy

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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hmm im pretty sure they took over it..theres no other explanation lol
like you said they drove up the stocks so people would sell which would mean their shareholding would increase

if you've done basic company law, you'd know that once a shareholder has over 50% of shares in a company they can pretty much dictate how that company will run by electing the directors of their choice etc. so in this case they would probably elect morimoto to be a director of the company
well this is company law in australia anyway..not sure about other countries



finally some discussion about hotelier! probably my fav this season
havent seen much of bambino or proposal daisakusen since its only been subbed upto 3 or so
liar game is pretty stupid and the rest just arent worth watching for me Unsure
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 1:37 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ahh i guess that makes sense...just wanted to make sure. forsome reason i thought something else was happening.

i'm really enjoying hotelier too. =)

liar game is pretty dumb...the concept had so much potential (>.<)
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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I also got the feeling that they had taken over already from that scene. It seems the stockholders had sold off to "a foreign expatriate" due to the rising prices, and they we're telling the hotel that this man was coming over for a meeting in order to act as a consultant to the hotel now. So the impression it left me with was that Mizusawa must have reached a majority of the shares to have that kind of clout.

I'm interested in seeing how Mizusawa is going to respond to Kyoko's question in the next episode. He had to have known what kind of situation this was going to place her in, hence the listlessness and the talk about things being more complicated than he'd expected. So his telling her that there was no need for her to leave the hotel and to believe him sends a pretty mixed message.

I'm also looking forward to Akane's next move. She's turned out to be far more interesting that I thought she'd be from her introduction. I really wonder how she'll react when she finds out that Yosuke isn't just a bellboy, though she's still pretty fixated on Ogata.

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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:12 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Still, if they really already held the majority of the stock, wouldn't that be clearly stated somehow? I kind of think they don't yet have enough to effectively take it over, but enough to send themselves in as "consultants" who practically get to impose their way, ostensibly to redress the hotel's financial situation...


Now on a different track I'll come out and confess it was Bae Yong Jun's beautiful face (together with his long hair, of course pinch ) that first got my attention for this drama... (he-he, not much of a surprise from a die-hard ga-wa-la-ga-wa-la-la-ga, is it Tongue ) but what made me instantly decide to watch it was when I spotted Oikawa Mitsuhiro among the cast! w00t Wub Wub
I first saw Oikawa Mitsuhiro as ベッシー in Manhattan Love Story and I was smitten at first sight Laugh Fangirling follows:
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He is beyond wonderful in this role! Wub Even though his and Yon-sama's characters couldn't be more different, both of them are such an incredible blend of kakkoii and yasashii, that my poor little heart almost can't take it!! Wub Crying At first I was very sad that Shin Dong Hyuk gets so little screen time, but now I realize I would have pretty much died if there was more of him in addition to Mizusawa-sama! pinch



To come back to the story, here is how I am afraid things will end up (please anyone who knows the story from watching the kdrama NOT to tell us the real ending!! pale Let us have the pleasure of speculation and uncertainty. while we can... Unsure Roll Eyes)

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No matter Akane's clinging, Ogata finally realizes how important Odagiri is to him (actually, I think he already kinda does Mr. Green ) and somehow finds the guts to tell her that, whereupon she suddenly realizes she cannot leave him, her first love, so they become a couple to live happily ever after, with Akane (hopefully; we are talking the optimistic version here) settling for Yosuke's sincere love, while Mizusawa-sama has to go back to roaming the wide world, all lonely and sad... Crying Crying Crying And that is the optimistic version, where nobody dies or ends up in prison! pale


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i agree ogata's character seems unable to express his feelings ... he seems to like Kyoko too but does not have the courage to speak up..... mizusawa on the other hand is very direct he told kyoko his feelings for her and even told ogata!!

episode 5 confused me a bit cos i am now curious as what is mizusawa trying to do...i thought he promised kyoko something then how come he did what he did at the end of the episode?

mizusawa is definitely the main character in this show as far as i see it cos he is very intelligent and he is a no nonsense person...not too given to emotions either...
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I luv this series!! Song Hye Kyo is soooo pwetty as always! Smile [/quote]
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Liantasse wrote:

To come back to the story, here is how I am afraid things will end up (please anyone who knows the story from watching the kdrama NOT to tell us the real ending!! pale Let us have the pleasure of speculation and uncertainty. while we can... Unsure Roll Eyes)

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No matter Akane's clinging, Ogata finally realizes how important Odagiri is to him (actually, I think he already kinda does Mr. Green ) and somehow finds the guts to tell her that, whereupon she suddenly realizes she cannot leave him, her first love, so they become a couple to live happily ever after, with Akane (hopefully; we are talking the optimistic version here) settling for Yosuke's sincere love, while Mizusawa-sama has to go back to roaming the wide world, all lonely and sad... Crying Crying Crying And that is the optimistic version, where nobody dies or ends up in prison! pale




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I can't even wrap my mind around Kyoko ending up with Ogata at this point. Crying She's had all the buildup with Mizusawa in these first five episodes, and I just can't imagine any way to develop Ogata enough to become the romantic lead with only three episodes left. While I still fear the possibility some, I'm starting to feel that if it wasn't Mizusawa that she chose, Kyoko would end up alone. I get the feeling that while Ogata has feelings for Kyoko, he really loves the hotel most of all.

I'd really love to see Akane end up with Yosuke. He really likes her, and he's a much nicer guy than she's given him credit for. It would be rather entertaining how that would throw a monkeywrench into her father's plan too. Kinda a moot point taking over a hotel, if the present heir shacks up with your only heir. *chuckle*



After rewatching some earlier episodes today, I'm a little more confused about the consulting bit.

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I think it was in episode 3 that Mizusawa's side had been talking to the bank about some part of their take over plan and basically saying that the bank was agreeing to it. So I'm not completely sure what that was about, and we've not really gotten more on it yet. Maybe, Japanese business law works kinda like those mystery illnesses that are so popular in doramas. You know the ones that are lifethreatening, but are never given a name or full explanation...



Anyhow, only hours to go before the next episode airs! Yay!
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:26 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ryoko11 wrote:
Liantasse wrote:

To come back to the story, here is how I am afraid things will end up (please anyone who knows the story from watching the kdrama NOT to tell us the real ending!! pale Let us have the pleasure of speculation and uncertainty. while we can... Unsure Roll Eyes)

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No matter Akane's clinging, Ogata finally realizes how important Odagiri is to him (actually, I think he already kinda does Mr. Green ) and somehow finds the guts to tell her that, whereupon she suddenly realizes she cannot leave him, her first love, so they become a couple to live happily ever after, with Akane (hopefully; we are talking the optimistic version here) settling for Yosuke's sincere love, while Mizusawa-sama has to go back to roaming the wide world, all lonely and sad... Crying Crying Crying And that is the optimistic version, where nobody dies or ends up in prison! pale




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I can't even wrap my mind around Kyoko ending up with Ogata at this point. Crying She's had all the buildup with Mizusawa in these first five episodes, and I just can't imagine any way to develop Ogata enough to become the romantic lead with only three episodes left. While I still fear the possibility some, I'm starting to feel that if it wasn't Mizusawa that she chose, Kyoko would end up alone. I get the feeling that while Ogata has feelings for Kyoko, he really loves the hotel most of all.

I'd really love to see Akane end up with Yosuke. He really likes her, and he's a much nicer guy than she's given him credit for. It would be rather entertaining how that would throw a monkeywrench into her father's plan too. Kinda a moot point taking over a hotel, if the present heir shacks up with your only heir. *chuckle*



After rewatching some earlier episodes today, I'm a little more confused about the consulting bit.

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I think it was in episode 3 that Mizusawa's side had been talking to the bank about some part of their take over plan and basically saying that the bank was agreeing to it. So I'm not completely sure what that was about, and we've not really gotten more on it yet. Maybe, Japanese business law works kinda like those mystery illnesses that are so popular in doramas. You know the ones that are lifethreatening, but are never given a name or full explanation...



Anyhow, only hours to go before the next episode airs! Yay!


i'm afraid to read you guy's comments because i haven't seen the k-drama.

demo i think ueta-san is the yasashi character in this story
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i read all those spoiler tags, they have nothing to do with the kdrama Big Smile
i hope no one posts anything too revealing from the kdrama too
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Oh yes, that's exactly what we were saying, wasn't it? Smile That we haven't seen the kdrama and don't want to be spoiled! Big Smile Tongue Thank you airskape for pointing it out. Smile So please ruisu do read and tell us what you think.

wls2948, ryoko-chan, here's what I'm guessing about our leading man (Wub) 's intentions with the "consulting":
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Mizusawa, in whose soul true love has begun to work its miraculous transformations Wub Laugh , is now disgusted by Morimoto and the likes of his schemes -- I'm hoping for that because of the signs he's been showing of having started being unconfortable with his own path in life so far. That's why, maybe now he would also prefer to see the hotel doing well once again in the hands of its rightful owners. I think/hope he has a brilliant plan related to that. And although for a while it must mean retrenchment and some painful measures, once it's again freely sailing it can take up again all the employees it had before and some more besides. It's now only a matter of whether Kyoko (and the others) will trust him. As it seems he has the power to impose his plan, the others will probably submit because they have no choice, but for Mizusawa Kyoko's trust would mean the world, that's for sure. Of course, all of this is the imagination and wild guesses of a hopeless romantic pinch so please take it with the proper pinches of salt and add your own thoughts here! Smile



Oh, and ryoko-chan, I really-really liked what you said about the final outcome!! Wub Very reasonable, too!
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So then I'll keep hoping that she won't end up alone -- somehow it wouldn't fit the story at all, now would it?! Roll Eyes


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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

No worries, ruisu! I haven't seen the kdrama either. We are just making our own guesses about what might happen in the jdrama from what's happened in the first five episodes of that. I don't plan to watch the kdrama until after I finish watching the whole Japanese one.

That is a nicely romantic one, Liantasse! I'd enjoy that. (Yeah, I'm a hopeless romantic too!) Hmmm... my thoughts on what he might be doing.

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While he seems to be rethinking things, I'm not sure that he's given up the plan yet. I think he might need a little more time before he can change his stance on the hotel. Since Mizusawa doesn't particularly care what most people think of him, he might not have considered all the resentment that Kyoko could have to face from the rest of the staff. So Kyoko might have a real fight with him here and be left trying to figure out which is the real Mizusawa--the cold businessman or the man who stayed out in the rain looking for her lost necklace with his flashlight. Meanwhile, he'll be trying to figure out his priorities in life.

Again, pinch of salt. I figure since we're nearing the end of the series a bigger misunderstanding/fight could make a nice arc in these next episodes.



*chuckle* Nice to have guesses to keep us busy while we wait for the next episode.
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heheh...interesting takes. honestly i can't see what's gonna happen next...that's why i like it though! it can go so many ways. i do think though, that the hunter will fulfill his contract.
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