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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Hello everybody, I have been lurking for awhile and decide to comment on this great drama for once. So far the first 5 episodes have been roller coaster with non-stop suspense. I am wondering if Nao character is going to change thru all this. She has been the most honest person so far, but now that she decides to take on the game to save Akiyama its going to be interesting how she copes with the bad guys on her own.

Also Akiyama has owned the show so far, the actor does a great job portraying the cold yet kind hearted guy that is Akiyama. Now I can forsee Akiyama going against Nao in the end but this whole thing is set up so so screwed you can't really put a definite on any speculation. Ep 6 should provide a major turning point in the story things are going to get even more interesting.


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well studies show that men usually look for a partner that more or less like their mother...so you can't really completely discount the love story between Akiyama and Nao...though i hope this won't come true...well maybe until after Nao becomes wiser...



Especially if they like their mother very much.

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There may be a half-hug scene in episode 7... if they follow the manga. cheers

Nao finally... ?!!!!... in ep 7.

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well studies show that men usually look for a partner that more or less like their mother...so you can't really completely discount the love story between Akiyama and Nao...though i hope this won't come true...well maybe until after Nao becomes wiser...



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Ha, yes, I can believe that. I'm thinking of a greek stereotype where they all are mummy's boys. lol. Still there is a difference between unintentionally falling in love with someone similar to their mothers than actually being reminded of you mother. But... Yeah, I would want Nao to get a clue before any romance happens. Akiyama is way too savy for Nao.


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Hello everybody, I have been lurking for awhile and decide to comment on this great drama for once. So far the first 5 episodes have been roller coaster with non-stop suspense. I am wondering if Nao character is going to change thru all this. She has been the most honest person so far, but now that she decides to take on the game to save Akiyama its going to be interesting how she copes with the bad guys on her own.

Also Akiyama has owned the show so far, the actor does a great job portraying the cold yet kind hearted guy that is Akiyama. Now I can forsee Akiyama going against Nao in the end but this whole thing is set up so so screwed you can't really put a definite on any speculation. Ep 6 should provide a major turning point in the story things are going to get even more interesting.


I'm hoping the opposite - that Nao will turn on Akiyama. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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I'm hoping the opposite - that Nao will turn on Akiyama. Smile

That's very possible with the whole new theme that she is going to save him , it might turn out that she will have to go against him to do so. Though that will also means means she will start to become dishonest deceitful person. Maybe she will start using her "Too Honest" weakness to deceive people. In anyway this is going to be very interesting.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

LOL! That'd be wicked.

I'm hoping for that half-hug in ep7 cheers

Well I've always liked a little romance in a series Smile But yeah, Nao ought to get wiser first or poor Akiyama will have his hands full~ I don't think she's gonna pull it off though, despite her good intention :S People don't change that easily.

Someone talked about an original ending, is the manga complete already? Anyway I hope the ending won't be as predictable as in Death Note (the fate of the main character that is)...

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I just had to stop in and say how much I love this drama and the SM part cracked me up!

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Did anyone else notice that in ep. 4 that during the SM part, at 3:33 right before Akiyama told Nao that she should vote "No", that when Akiyama looked up from the ground, there was a quick flash of the "yes"/"no" board with the outcome of more "no" votes than "yes"? I had to watch that part a few times to make sure I got it because it went by super fast.

http://piccysnap.com/e/412183835/PICCYSNAP.COM_680_c.jpg

I figured out now that if Akiyama hadn't told Nao to switch then it would be Nao dealing with "X", 15 and that other dude. There is no way that Nao would have figured out that Mr. Mushroom was "X" and chances are she would lose in the next round. Plus Akiyama had to win in order to stop "X" from being the overall winner.


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Sigh...the writers dumbed down the plot...again. Another totally unnecessary scene (in the manga, Akiyama's actions are much more logical). If he'd already known the identity of X and his strategy as suggested at the end, then he would have known even before the voting began that he had to always vote the same way as X in order to have a chance to win. In ep. 5, there's an even dumber addition which makes me wonder about the writers'/director's math proficiency.
Also, ep. 5 is starting to drag, which doesn't bode well for a satisfying original ending. Sad




where did you download the manga? the show was interesting so far, but i just couldn't imagine what the ending could possibly be... Crazy is the manga version already finished?

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

any Nao haters here?? coz i am Smile
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I wouldn't say I'm a Nao hater but I do dislike her. In nearly every episode she has me screaming "Stupid! Stupid!"

I actually find Liar Game more painstaking than suspenseful. In fact, it hasn't created any suspense so far, just a lot of long-drawn out, brain-numbing explanations, weird, over the top characters, bad acting by the co-actors, and overwhelming camera angles/editing tricks. The only thing keeping me in the game is Akiyama's coolness and my loyalty to Toda Erika.

Ep.5 was only 36 minutes long and yet it felt SO long-winded! I was watching the progress bar and almost groaning because it wasn't ending yet... I was practically gripped with horror that Nao would turn all goody-goody and foolishly kind when she started sympathizing with the other losers.

...she reminds me of Ziwei in HZGG pinch
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Ha! gemtsoi: I had that same fear - "Oh no, she's not going to give away her share is she???"

Isn't it strange that someone so nice and kind and honest, is so irritating to watch. This is why, my friends, you must never write a story with a "flawless" heroine! If she doesn't change by the end of this show, I think I may have to delete the show and empty the recycling bin (the closest I can get to throwing the show across the room).

(funny thing is, on my site, I have a poll going for favourite show and liar game is winning... Another funny thing, I keep watching... but I know it's only for akiyama.)

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Nao is totally annoying. Seriously, how is managing to survive? She's supposed to be a college student but I don't see how she managed to pass her entrance exam -__- But who knows maybe lack of common sense doesn't mean lack of book smarts.

Which brings me to another point: if she's a college student how come she never goes to school? Or if she's not, shouldn't she have a job or something to pay the house rent and pay hospital bills for her father?
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GoddessCarlie wrote:
Ha! gemtsoi: I had that same fear - "Oh no, she's not going to give away her share is she???"

Isn't it strange that someone so nice and kind and honest, is so irritating to watch. This is why, my friends, you must never write a story with a "flawless" heroine! If she doesn't change by the end of this show, I think I may have to delete the show and empty the recycling bin (the closest I can get to throwing the show across the room).

(funny thing is, on my site, I have a poll going for favourite show and liar game is winning... Another funny thing, I keep watching... but I know it's only for akiyama.)


hey... can i copy that poll site of yours to show my friends in another forum? im also curious of the outcome. lolz... i voted for liar game, not coz of nao or shota... its the whole story that made me interested... Smile

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Maybe I'm odd, but as much as I think Nao is stupid I can't seem to hate her. In fact it's that mushroom dude that I hate. Everytime I see him I think "yeah, yeah, we know you want to be the ultimate winner and all that jazz..can you get off the screen now?"
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Nao's extreme stupidity is actually an essential ingredient to keeping the plot interesting. Without her, Akiyama would be the invulnerable superfraud. In other words, Nao is the living and breathing equivalent of kryptonite - the source of Akiyama's weakness, a constant pain in his butt.
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After watching episode 6 my whole view has changed about this drama. It's getting better and better but as it gets better, Nao gets stupider.
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I am against the whole romance thing betweem Akiyama and Nao until she wises up but I couldn't help but scream "YES" when they show him rush off once he got that phone call. It was only obvious where he was running to.

The person who started this game is really really smart. They knew to start it when Akiyama was getting released from prison. They knew to get Nao as one of the players. They set it up so that Nao would go ask Akiyama for help once the officer told her about him. They knew he would eventually agree because he sees his mother in her. It's the perfect plan. To draw him in through someone else. Its sad though how Nao has to suffer over it.

She's an complete idiot, but I wonder what plan Akiyama is going to use to save her this time. I'm going to rack my brain for the next week, or until episode 7 and the subs come out, trying to think of some plan.



I want to go get the manga now.
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