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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Disturbed by frequent rapes in THAI dramas.   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I'm lao and Laos is heavily influenced by thai culture. Laos imports all their entertainment from Thailand. Laos kids grow listening to thai music and watching thai lakorns and other thai shows rather than our own.

I'm a Lao-American and I pretty much grew up watching lakorns. Since as long as I can remember, there has always been rape in Lakorns. A typical thai drama (not saying all) have the male lead rape the lead girl and she becomes pregnant and they fall in love. OR he rapes her to prove his love and then they work it out and then they fall in love. The evil side character gets rape occasionally. Personally, this is sickening. What is this saying about thai culture or rape in general? Clearly this is not ok, but yet thai drama makes rape seem OK!

What I know is that rape is a psychological tool used by pimps to controlled sex slaves/prostitutes. Rape is used by pimps to make girls or potential sex slaves feel shamed and feel that they deserve no better.

In thai drama, the lead guy rapes the girl and apologizes, she cries and pretty much later on forgives him. Rape by the lead guy is showing his frustration over how he can't show his "love". Rape becomes an action of proving your "love". I don't get it, but this is how it is portrayed.

Some people might argue that this is just a show or drama and shouldn't take it seriously. However, little kids do watch these dramas. I started watching thai dramas when I was 8. What is thai drama teaching young girls, it's ok to be raped.

THIS IS SICK and something should be done about it.

here are some dramas up on YOUTUBE where the lead male rapes or attempts to rape the lead girl.

uploaded by Ruchaneewan--love this person..got to watch some really good lakorns on youtube because of her.

1.)Pee nong 2 leuard with Dan and BEAM from the boy band D2B. like this drama but totally turned off near the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E1VuZfAUZY&feature=PlayList&p=B39BA477E502667E&index=1

2.) Rahut rissaya with Paul and Noon. Don't even know why I watched it. Curiousity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvueHsUAVk8&feature=PlayList&p=6829FC8479D8E8DC&index=0


Uploaded by Misluver

1.) Taung Paun Kamathep : love the chemistry between Janie and Andrew...but turned off near the end.

synopsis: Thripope (Andrew) just got back from being out of the country. He goes and visits his father, whom's about to get married to a younger lady. He is furious about it, because his father is doing his stepmother wrong. He has a half-sister that is divorced and a neice. Things get really complicated when he kidnaps the alleged bride to be. But he kidnapped the wrong lady. He kidnaps her sister, played by Janie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dss0xn8bj7I&feature=PlayList&p=2B6D36E650D3BDF0&index=1

2.) Leh Ratree---you can tell from reading the synopsis that someone is gonna get rape.

synopsis: Sek (Pepper) is a rich and stern business man and the only son/child of his family line. Ann (Kate) is the daughter of one of his workers. Kate's dad have been stealing money from Sek's company for a long time. When his mistakes are exposed, Kate will pay the price to save her family. Sek's family wants an heir. So, Kate's dad suggest that in return for the money that he has stolen, Sek can use his daughter to carry a child for his family line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvhFVOEysuk


Uploaded by Wishbonika WITH ENGLISH SUBS

1.) Kaew Tah Pee: roughly translated to "your (for guy) crystal eye"

synopsis: a rich blind guy falls in love with a school teacher and they get married. She married him out of pity because she thought he was poor and blind. They get married or something and go off to Paris where he gets his eye surgery. It's about their relationship and people trying to pull them apart...or something like that. I haven't watched it, but this is what I heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TChZoZswLXQ

Uploaded by wasabizan WITH ENGLISH SUB

Duang Jai Patiharn : lead guy "attempts" to assault the lead girl several times.

synopsis: Techo, is a bratty rich guy with a fatal heart aliment. He lives his life to the fullest and recklessly because he knows at any moment he could die. Techo has a butler who loves him as his own son and has even convince his real son to become a doctor to care for Techo. The butler and his son attempts to calm Techo down by introducing him into painting. They hire Mo=leading girl to become his art teacher. They get off at the wrong start...blah blah...there is a inheritance struggle, slutty gold-digger trying to get between Mo and Techo's relationship...blah..blah..your usual Thai drama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYyvQTaDND0[/u]

I have yet to see a KOREAN drama with rape. I stopped watching thai dramas for a long time because of this.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:40 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Now that you mention it....yeahhhhh.
There seems to be ALOT of raping in thai dramas.
Hmmm....

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

oh... now that's alarming... Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:59 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

i agreed that there is a LOt...but I guessed the Thai people don't really care about it or take it lightly with the rape scene because it doesn't even get to the point where there's an "actually raped" scene...the scene ended with the male lead throwing the female lead on to the bed and jump on top of her...sometime it just make you go like "if you going to do a rape scene at least make it look real"....

but what funny about that drama it that rape scene are okay but kiss scene are a no no... Crazy

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:15 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Rape isn't pretty; it's very brutal and obviously you can't show that kind of thing on TV, but the way they portray rape makes me want to vomit with disgust. The guy nuzzles harshly on the girls neck or something and then the camera points to the lamp or whatever. They do make rape scenes too light; the mood seems romantic in some sick way. The casualness of the scene makes it seems OK and not taken seriously....i definitely agree.

grr.. annoyed and appalled.. I definitely don't get it.
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Wow, I've yet to watch a Thai drama, but this reminds me of similar patterns I've seen in American romance novels of the late Seventies and early Eighties, where the hero was often raping the heroine--- and then falling in love with her. Later these romances evolved into more politically correct stories where rape was not present, if not only as a subtle "forced seduction".

The same thing is going on in sexually explicit girls' comics in Japan. They often feature the heroine being forced into some sexual act by a guy, and later falling in love with him. I believe these too will evolve someday into something more politically correct as it happened with American romances.

I think the reason behind it is pretty much what Nancy Friday wrote in the 70s about women's "rape fantasies". Basically, it was way to conceal women's own sexual desires. By being "forced" into sex by someone else, instead of participating willingly, the female heroine (as well as the female reader/viewer) can pass off as "innocent and pure".

Once society, as well as women in general, become more liberated and learn to accept their sexual desires as natural, female readers and viewers won't need anymore this disguise/excuse provided by rape stories.
That's at least what happened with American romances, and I swear the plot of "Taung Paun Kamathep" seems to be taken straight out of a historical romance pinch

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rape scenes are okay but kiss scenes are a no no...


these dramas somehow aspire to be 'sensually thrilling' but are inhibited by society's morals, and therefore they use the "concealment" provided by the rape scene. Or something like that scratch
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

if only u could show us only the rape parts...i mean...with only the opening, it looks just like a normal dramas...and im not gonna watch the whole dramas just to see your point...

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I haven't seen any Thai Drama's yet. I'm really surprised to hear that though. Is it a cultural thing for Thai men? Are the Thai ppl understanding of drama's and movies like this?

ooky sorta off subject(or a lot, sry i'll ask in the correct topic next time), but what are the popular thai drama's? My friends have told me to try watching some. I've just recently watched a Filipino Drama and that was surprisingly good so now I want to try a ThaiDrama any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I'm glad I don't watch Thai dramas then. I'm not into that stuff.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:10 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Silvestre wrote:
if only u could show us only the rape parts...i mean...with only the opening, it looks just like a normal dramas...and im not gonna watch the whole dramas just to see your point...


Here
1)Rahut Rissaya -rape scene

ep. 9 (4/10) and 9(5/10) morning after
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w73WrwWqbQo&feature=PlayList&p=6829FC8479D8E8DC&index=87

2)Taung Paun Kamathep

ep. 13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGUTLifomow
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Martina is right on the money- viewers want to see something they feel is "erotic", but they don't want female leads in dramas to be "loose". Ridiculous, but unfortunately, that's the way it is at the moment.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

christaluvsdrama wrote:
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ooky sorta off subject(or a lot, sry i'll ask in the correct topic next time), but what are the popular thai drama's? My friends have told me to try watching some. I've just recently watched a Filipino Drama and that was surprisingly good so now I want to try a ThaiDrama any suggestions?



Well this is what is being subbed.
Hua Jai Chocolate "chocolate heals the heart" --cute so far...I guess it's about two people coming out of a terrible relationship and finding each other. Mos's character is being cheated on by his long time gf. Aom's character just left her cheating bf. MOs is a famous thai singer and Aom is a really popular thai actress.

Ep. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YMk-ndAUk

Khun Por Rub Jang (Daddy for Hire)- A single working- lawyer mom is disturbed that her son has girlish tendency and fears that he might be gay. She decides to hire a male babysitter to teach her son how to be a "man." What she she get is Pee, a womanizer/ playboy from a very prominent magazine empire family. He has a degree in Child psychology from the sates and wants to start a CHILD rearing magazine. His father who heads the publishing company refuse to help him get the start up because he knows his son is irresponsible. He thinks his son majored in Child psychology to pick up girls.

Pee fakes being poor and gets the babysitting job to learn more about child rearing and prove to his father that he can do this and child psychology was his passion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCAQeXT25fc&mode=related&search=


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:46 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

abstractcandy wrote:
Martina is right on the money- viewers want to see something they feel is "erotic", but they don't want female leads in dramas to be "loose". Ridiculous, but unfortunately, that's the way it is at the moment.


Ok, America changed. For Thailand it has been like this for the past 25 years.

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Pee Nong 2 Leurd- 2005
Rahut rissya - 2007 just ended

I do agree with Martina because in both Thai and Laos cultures girls are suppose to be sexually submissive or have no desire at all. I think it also promote male dominance for the culture. In away, it's advocating control over the female sex.
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nophankh wrote:
christaluvsdrama wrote:
I
ooky sorta off subject(or a lot, sry i'll ask in the correct topic next time), but what are the popular thai drama's? My friends have told me to try watching some. I've just recently watched a Filipino Drama and that was surprisingly good so now I want to try a ThaiDrama any suggestions?



Well this is what is being subbed.
Hua Jai Chocolate "chocolate heals the heart" --cute so far...I guess it's about two people coming out of a terrible relationship and finding each other. Mos's character is being cheated on by his long time gf. Aom's character just left her cheating bf. MOs is a famous thai singer and Aom is a really popular thai actress.

Ep. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44YMk-ndAUk

Khun Por Rub Jang (Daddy for Hire)- A single working- lawyer mom is disturbed that her son has girlish tendency and fears that he might be gay. She decides to hire a male babysitter to teach her son how to be a "man." What she she get is Pee, a womanizer/ playboy from a very prominent magazine empire family. He has a degree in Child psychology from the sates and wants to start a CHILD rearing magazine. His father who heads the publishing company refuse to help him get the start up because he knows his son his irresponsible. He thinks his son majored in Child psychology to pick up girls.

Pee fakes being poor and gets the babysitting job to learn more about child rearing and prove to his father that he can do this and child psychology was his passion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCAQeXT25fc&mode=related&search=


Thanks I'll check these out. Smile

Also I saw those two scenes and I'm really appalled. How can they make the rape scene seem so natural. Also how the other guy just acted as if the just had 'sex' instead of the fact that he 'raped' her. Does it not process through their brains that it wrong. I have to agree about what you said. What is this telling for young girls who decide to watch these? If they're swayed to believe its okay adults and society aren't doing their jobs to proctect them. This is a big problem, this shouldn't be on televison. These aren't even based on a true story to tell a story of someone. They're Romance, Romance-Comedy movies and drama its SICK!!!!

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nophankh wrote:

I do agree with Martina because in both Thai and Laos cultures girls are suppose to be sexually submissive or have no desire at all. I think it also promote male dominance for the culture. In away, it's advocating control over the female sex.


Yeah- I hope things change in Thai and Laos cultures so that rape isn't portrayed the way it is in these dramas. It's disturbing as hell. Goggle eyes It's hard enough being someone who went through rape in America, where things are supposed to be more open and women have more rights- I can't imagine how women in Thailand and Laos deal with it. Especially since many people will think along the lines of "Well, these women on these TV shows were raped, but they act normal... why is this girl upset?" To be completely honest, though, I've heard so many stupid comments on the subject of rape from people whom I thought were very intelligent that I'm hardly surprised by stupidity of the media about rape- in any culture. Sad, but true.
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