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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

N饌 Vanille wrote:
ringo0_0 wrote:
I think you should say that to the people who created the fake photos, not me. so I didn't have to spend my time for creating this stupid thing! lol Whistling


I did mean them, not you. I just find it amazing how anyone can have such an empty life to actually go around searching for the photos of celebrities to prove to the world that they are fake (or not). Some people really need jobs. Laugh


Oh I see. I'm sorry I thought you said that to me. my poor English... Crying
I actually felt stupid while I was searching and making these proof pictures... I personally don't care if they are "plastic" or not, but I don't like lie. And some people (intentionally or not) trying to spread the lie to the world was just too much for me... Anyway, I read in other topic that you have a Korean BF. I hope my posts didn't offend you and innocent Korean people... Coz I did not mean that. Smile


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Don't worry, I wasn't offended. Laugh I know very well that some Koreans are very childish and love to bash Japan out of an inferiority complex. However, I've also met some Japanese who liked to say bad things about Korea. I think people from both countries are generally nice, but some still buy into that rivalry thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Don't worry, I wasn't offended. Laugh I know very well that some Koreans are very childish and love to bash Japan out of an inferiority complex. However, I've also met some Japanese who liked to say bad things about Korea. I think people from both countries are generally nice, but some still buy into that rivalry thing.


Oh that's good! Laugh Yeah... I don't like those Japanese who like to say only bad things about Korea and insult them badly either. But except those people, most of the time, I guess we have good reasons to get upset, like these fake photos. For Japanese, it's not the rivalry thing that made us get mad actually... Anyway, I hope those Japan/Korea haters will pour their energy on something more constructive.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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Plastic surgery does happen in Japan and Korea. It is common in many rich industrialized nations where people have lots of money to spend. These people are not satisfied with how they have been created. However, that does not mean all the actors/actresses in Japan and Korea have had surgery. They do use a lot of makeup and film-lightening techniques which causes their skin to glow on film. Also, the photographs of the movie stars in promotional posters, magazines, etc are all photoshopped. This makes their skin look as smooth and shiny as plastic, which is of course unnatural. As for 75% of Koreans being born with single-eyelids, that is untrue. For all CJK peoples - roughly half are born with double-eyelids and the other half with single-eyelids. As for this Korean site, hmm... It seems to be typical anti-Japanese fare. Some of them definitely had surgery while the others just didn't have any makeup on and were not photoshopped. So the Koreans making this site and anybody else should know this: The majority of people in any given country are ugly, average or a little bit above in the looks department. It is only the small minority that are exceedingly beautiful, which is why they are the most sought after and garner the most attention.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I don't think you can be a celebrity if you DON'T have plastic surgery..sometimes its the talent agency that forces the celebs to undergo plastic surgery

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

jWow...great collection of pics of before and after....hehehe....I really don't care whether or not celebs have plastic surgery...it's their job to look good and if surgery makes them look better and/or boosts their career, then more power to them Mr. Green

However, I must say that Hamasaki Ayumi DEFINITELY had multiple plastic surgeries...most Ayu fans that I know even admit to to this....she was such a pretty little girl to begin with and now?? Hmm, she's looking a bit like a live-action anime girl to me with those huge bug eyes of hers....still pretty but she looks fake....

And I agree, Ryo and Takky are naturally, non-surgically enhanced hot....*drools* Mr. Green

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:27 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Nice of you to research and clear it up ringo0_0, It proves that we shouldn't just blatantly believe something, just because someone says so Smile

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

mou...
there's an article about it even in TIME Magazine, google it up, I just read it a while ago.

I was breezing by, but the ignorant comments were just too annoying.
Obviously alot of you know Hamasaki Ayumi had cosmetic surgeries done but only because it's so obvious. There are thousands of asian! celebrities out there who have it less noticeable like Utada Hikaru and probably all of H!P. I bet it's not on purpose, my bet is, it's either mandatory to get a few things fixed up, OR it's their own choice because they're fully aware of what it takes to get accepted on TV and they jump at the chance to "fix" some things up. Heck, it's a pre-requisite even.

Really, in the showbiz cosmetic surgery is no big deal, to us normal people it is though right? I've seen so many cases of it in celebrities, I've just accepted it as a norm 0_0

If anyone wants my honest opinion, although sad, there are no top asian female celebrities who've not had a few cosmetic surgeries. I think what freaked me out was the larger number of even males who've had surgeries these days. Suddenly I was unable to trust if I was actually admiring a "real" person. Whatever that means.
Since I only know about the Korean Japanese entertainment world, I say that I've yet to see a female actress without cosmetic surgery there.

Don't be naive now, yes BoA has had cosmetic surgeries, a few on her nose over the years evidence suggests, and just because that person's eyes or noses don't look that nice doesn't mean it's not done.

In conclusion what am I trying to say?
Who cares anymore, I've had it with this superficial business, the inside isn't worth crap, it only comes as a bonus to the face anyway. So just enjoy your shows and who cares about who's had what done? everybody's done it 0__0
I say show me a photo of someone you think hasn't had any surgeries done!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:51 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

You know, I think you guys must be sympathetic to the celebs. They had to change their natural appearance just to please their audience. Crying (of course, gain more fame themselves)
I hate and scared of hospital, so I think it'd be a huge self sacrifice for them to do such plastic surgery Crying
Oh, anyway, I've seen a lot of beautiful Japanese celebs here. The guy named Ryo is such a cutie, never need for any plastic change Laugh
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Wow Ringo those are great childhood pics especially Yukie nakama and Kyoko Fukada. I don't really care about the plastic surgery stuff, but I love to see photos of celebrities when they were young. Can Ringo or anyone please post some more thanks cheers Big Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:39 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

hmm someone mentioned this before, but i really have to applaud the entertainment Industry in Hong Kong because there are very few celebrities who had underwent plastic surgery.

I guess it all comes down to the fact that Hong Kong media is really slack =\
They exaggerate things a lot and all and if they think that someone had plastic surgery, they make a big deal out of it and the celebrity's popularity drops. So i guess that's why the celebrities don`t risk surgery coz if someone finds out; their popularity will decrease; besides, as a Honkie, I never really thought that the standards for being a celebrity was too high... Tongue
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

How about Shichinin no Onna Bengoshi? Who among the 7 lead actresses had surgery?

How about Zaizen Naomi and Amami Yuki?
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I think nowadays plastic surgery is nothing out of the ordinary in any industry that relies heavily on looks. The Japanese entertainment industry is surely no exception.

The media likes to point its finger at celebrities that have allegedly had plastic surgery, and the internet is full of sites with before/after pics, but at the same time the audience wants to see people on the screen that are so good looking that they take your breath away. That's putting the entertainers of today in a rather tight spot.

I don't mind if someone' s had their nose, lips, eyes etc. done as long as it looks good. It's demanded for celebrities to always look perfect, so I think it's unfair to accuse them of having plastic surgery to achieve just that. Personally, I'm more interested in the charisma an actor has on screen rather than who's had what surgically corrected. As long as they can make me believe the story, they can staple a second nose to their forehead for all I care. Tongue


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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

There are actually a surprising number of Japanese actors who have had it done but I also saw a couple shows about it when I was living in Japan and most of the actors/actresses on those shows hadn't had it done... Korea on the other hand in P.S. crazy, almost every actor/actress has it done and many many regular people get it done as well. The reason being, it's really cheap to get it done in Korea. It's actually getting quite popular for Japanese to take a week long trip to korea for some sightseeing and a little Plastic Surgery (one of my GF's friends had it done). However to the extent of my knowledge from living 3 years in Japan and teaching thousands of people, most Japanese girls are against it. The ones that get it done are the rich and the gyaru types... Either way, make sure you look at kid photos of your GF if you date a Japanese or Korean girl!! haha...
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

lots of singers and actors/actresses do it.(Yumiko Shaku for example) I don't care personally as long as they still a good job in their career. I think that sometimes the girls have more of a problem with or some reason than boys. I tend to get bashed because I am a big fan of the singer, Ai Otsuka and my girlfriends like to point out that she has TOTALLY had plastic surgery and tries too hard to be cute, etc. (personally she probably has her nose looks a little different that from her debut and her eyes are bigger)
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Nea Vanille wrote: Don't worry, I wasn't offended. Laugh I know very well that some Koreans are very childish and love to bash Japan out of an inferiority complex. However, I've also met some Japanese who liked to say bad things about Korea. I think people from both countries are generally nice, but some still buy into that rivalry thing.
I just don't understand the Japanese<Korean>_<
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