Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
i wish to hav a korean boyfriend too, but i dun think so i could hav coz i always feel tat korea n koreans are so far away from me, n i dun think they might like dark complexion type of girl like me...sorry not to hurt anyone out there is jus my thoughts only...
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
A remarkable number of Westernised Asian guys I met on my travels told me that white guys tend to date ugly Asian girls. They think that said men just have too much of an Asian fetish to care about the actual beauty of the girl - but it might just be that white and Asian men have different views of what is beautiful in Asian women.
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Néa Vanille wrote:
A remarkable number of Westernised Asian guys I met on my travels told me that white guys tend to date ugly Asian girls. They think that said men just have too much of an Asian fetish to care about the actual beauty of the girl - but it might just be that white and Asian men have different views of what is beautiful in Asian women.
I showed a korean girl the drama "dating now" and she said that the star "ho jung" is seen as very beautiful in korea. I personally thought her face looked weird. Not saying she is ugly, I would definitely date her, but she definitely is not the most beautiful girl I've ever seen.
I pointed out a few other girls to her (not stars, just fill ins) and said I thought they were much more beautiful than her (it was some of her classmates) and she just laughed and said that they are not beautiful at all.
And I had a korean room mate (and his friends) who all said that Utada Hikaru looked like a man and was ugly. Now once again, I say that utada isn't the most beautiful girl on earth, but she definitely is not ugly. I'd say she's average at worse, cute at best. And he showed me some pictures of what he said were "truly beautiful women"... lets just say I wanted to barf. Some of them were very scary.
I don't understand asian beauty and I probably never will (thank god lol).
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
The Koreans seem to think that Kim Tae Hee is the most beautiful Korean woman, judging by the many times I see her mug every day and by the many Korean guys I know who have pictures and video clips of her on their cell phones.
I'd say she has a rather universal beauty. She is very popular in this forum as well.
Edit: Korean men seem to like Russian tennis players. The subway is full of posters from Maria Sherapova, Anna Kournikova etc. I don't like a single one of them.
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Néa Vanille wrote:
The Koreans seem to think that Kim Tae Hee is the most beautiful Korean woman, judging by the many times I see her mug every day and by the many Korean guys I know who have pictures and video clips of her on their cell phones.
I'd say she has a rather universal beauty. She is very popular in this forum as well.
Edit: Korean men seem to like Russian tennis players. The subway is full of posters from Maria Sherapova, Anna Kournikova etc. I don't like a single one of them.
I saw the videos and she kind looks exactly the same (maybe a little paler).
This is off topic and feel free to pm me on this but,
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you said you hear anti-japanese crap all the time there? Like how often and what kinds of things do they say? I always thought it was just a small minority of koreans who don't like japanese.
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:11 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Néa Vanille wrote:
These tendencially more conservative people have a mind more open than yours seeing as how they would consider marrying a foreigner while you do not, but you seem to have difficulty acknowledging the fact that Koreans are outmarrying in greater and greater numbers each year and will continue to do so for the next years as globalization is becoming the world's primary philosophy. Considering the repercussions of this development and the fact that there will be 128 Korean men for every 100 Korean women in 2010, not admitting interracial marriages are in due is beyond old-fashioned. Do you want all those men to die unmarried and lonely? I've seen your anti-miscenegation propaganda in another thread; you truly seem to carry a great deal of bitterness against non-Koreans in your heart.
Upon coming to Korea, I received numerous requests for dating from men I met in the subway, coffee shops or on the street, man of whom I discussed the marriage issue with. My Korean boyfriend is more eager about marrying me than I am about marrying him (he dragged me to lunch with his mother after dating for a week and proudly introduced me to her) and his friends frequently ask me to introduce them to German girls so they can date one as well. Dating and marrying a Korean isn't that difficult for extraverted girls with above average looks, though there are some factors that make it likelier, such as being able to speak Korean, wanting to live in Korea and having a vast knowledge of Korean culture, history and customs.
There was actually a time when my Korean boyfriend and I faced problems due to cultural barriers. Once, when we had been dating for perhaps a week, something bad happened that my boyfriend, despite knowing it might come, refused to tell me about beforehand only to then blame me that it happened and refuse to speak to me for an entire day. He was mad at me because I had not been able to catch his hints, had not been able to read his mind and had not expected the bad thing to happen myself.
Since then, I have learned to be more subtle, to be more perceptive and to pay more attention to things unsaid. I might not have the same sixth sense a Korean does yet, but I'm getting there, slowly and surely. I truly feel like dating him has already made me a better person - already I learned a difficult, but important aspect of Asian culture that has made me more observative and sensitive to the needs of others and the things that are left unvoiced, but are there nonetheless. I'm not saying dating a Korean will be easy, because it certainly is a different culture for most of us non-Koreans, but I personally feel the things you can learn just make it so much more rewarding, provided you truly want to learn and you truly respect the other's culture, no matter how weird it might seem to you occassionally.
By now, I have been able to catch similar subtle behavioural hints on quite a number of occassions; likewise, he has learned to gracefully accept my Western directness and openness and he is no longer irritated by anything I say.
Just liking the looks of Korean people might not be enough to make marriage possible, though - to make it truly work, girls will have to learn to be sensitive, respectful and tolerant. Some aspects of Korean culture are upsetting; some are downright disgusting; but still, if it's your spouse's, you will have to learn to accept it. It isn't easy, but it certainly is rewarding to me.
Not as open minded as you I hope.. It's from my expriences mind you I'm in my 30's BTW... Just like your expriences... You probably experiencing it right now... So you going to marry that Korean guy? Probably not... Soon as you finish your military or whatever business you have in KOREA you will leave... You want statistics too? You get all this from dating a guy for 1 month?
Are you going to stay in Korea or is he going to live in USA? I bet you say that right now but eventually you will marry a "WHITE" guy... Interracial marriage is still a minority percentage... It will continue to be so... I know you just can't accept the truth.. you still want some statistics?
Request for dates? Probably want to exprience foreign women... But do most of them go through with marriage?
Globalization means we all work together it has nothing todo with interracial marriage...
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
kotaeshiranaihito wrote:
CallaLillieszz wrote:
why does everyone think that korean guys are the hottest guys on earth..... honestly there are good looking one like the stars and sadly looking like our normal people...... typically i think they are ok..... i prefer the tawainese guys.....kakakak
It's not everyone, it's just the people on d-addicts because they don't really know anything about korea (most of them) or japan. The same thing allegedly happened in Japan with japanese girls being fascinated by caucasian men. From what I heard their basis was the western movies/shows that we send them (and never watch ourselves of course lol).
See how media has huge impact on kids today? Especially the girls...
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:19 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
I may be jaded, but ALL men are trash, regardless of race. I'm trash as well, and I tell women they're doing me a huge favor by taking a chance with me. I just don't get this "I will only date _____ (fill in the race)" women. It's like dating based on a guy's horoscope sign, like they did in the 1970s.
If anything, dating based on race is a fetish. Plain and simple.
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
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I may be jaded, but ALL men are trash, regardless of race. I'm trash as well, and I tell women they're doing me a huge favor by taking a chance with me. I just don't get this "I will only date _____ (fill in the race)" women. It's like dating based on a guy's horoscope sign, like they did in the 1970s.
If anything, dating based on race is a fetish. Plain and simple.
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I wouldn't say all men are trash... There are some good ones out there...
My culture is Korean first, American second... My values have been faded since I have lived in America for so long but I still have my identity in tact and I know who I am...
Guys dating other race is most likely a fetish or some experimenting of some sort.. I've had 4.5 years long interracial relationships before and I try to understand them but I don't even know what they're thinking or what they're trying to do.. How can you talk about marriage when our thoughts are so different... It's like trying to love a stranger that you can't really understand 100%... The connection is way off...
I'm not saying there aren't guys out there who really fall for love and actually click in a sense where they feel true love... but it's really hard to come by... most people marry just for financial reasons or because they don't want to be alone forever...
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
this topic is funny. lol the korean wave is still pretty big. I can't tell the diff. between asian races. When I encounter an asian, I automatically assume they're chinese (unless I hear their accent if they have one) since where I live, most are chinese.
about the conservative view- what's the diff between that and other cultures? I know quite a few people that are like (not just asians). Personally, I think it's stupid. It maybe a comfort thing for the parents who don't really know the "other culture".
btw I'm for interracial partners
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:52 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
marvelous wrote:
Not as open minded as you I hope.. It's from my expriences mind you I'm in my 30's BTW... Just like your expriences... You probably experiencing it right now... So you going to marry that Korean guy? Probably not... Soon as you finish your military or whatever business you have in KOREA you will leave... You want statistics too? You get all this from dating a guy for 1 month?
Are you going to stay in Korea or is he going to live in USA? I bet you say that right now but eventually you will marry a "WHITE" guy... Interracial marriage is still a minority percentage... It will continue to be so... I know you just can't accept the truth.. you still want some statistics?
Request for dates? Probably want to exprience foreign women... But do most of them go through with marriage?
Globalization means we all work together it has nothing todo with interracial marriage...
Now you're starting to get annoying. I just LOVE it when people I have never spoken to have all these wonderful theories about me!! No wait, I don't...
My majors in University were all Asian-related, which necessarily means that I will have to have a connection to Asia or (preferably) live there for the rest of my professional life.
For the next few years, I plan on teaching in Korea.
My boyfriend and I have known each other for a long time before we started dating each other. I don't know whether I will marry him (of course right now my feeling stell me I will, but only time will tell) but I'm pretty sure it will eventually be an Asian guy. Asian culture is too big a part of my life seeing as how I have dedicated my professional career to these languages amd Asian sociology, so dating a "white" guy with little or limited appreciation for my interest and future jobs is out of the question for me. I would consider one with equal enthusiasm and genuine respect for Asian culture, but hey, I am living and will continue to live in ASIA - the chances of meeting an Asian man whom I love is many, many, MANY times greater than finding an expat man I click with instantly.
Also, what makes you think I'm American? I am German, born and raised, as I have mentioned in dozens of threads already. Just because I speak English well enough to teach it doesn't mean it's my first language - languages merely happen to be my passion, and after mastering English, Italian and French, I set out to learn those fascinating Asian languages and haven't been able to stop trying to learn them since. And I don't think it's so unlikely my boyfriend will eventually want to live in Germany (though I won't) - he studies German at university and has a similar appetite for learning new languages.
And, honey, it's definitely you who is having illusions here. When did I ever say interracial marriages were the norm? I have mentioned too many times that 5% of marriages in Korea now involve foreigners, exclusing the high number of Korean women who marry white Americans in the United States and not in Korea. 5% is, doubtlessly, a minority - but it is a high enough percentage to illustrate the growing trend. Just a few years earlier, the percentage was a lot lower. And that, my dear, is a
fact, and it will continue to remain being one whether you like it or not.
I don't even know what you are arguing against. You obviously hate interracial marriages, but that's your cup of coffee - it shouldn't blind you to the reality that statistics show that Korea is opening itself to foreigners due to globalization and the abortion of female embryos, which will result in a 128 Korean men for every 100 Korean women ratio in 2010. Whether you believe that interracial marriages make sense or not isn't the issue - that was thoroughly discussed in the interracial dating thread, in which, by the way, you got numerous examples of people living happily in interracial marriages and you got quite thrashed for your anti-miscenegationm propaganda. Still, I don't give a flying what you personally feel about these issues - I'll be happy as long as you stop theorizing about people you don't know and accept the truth that, yes, Korean men are marrying foreign women, and more Korean men still will marry foreign women next year and the year after. They will not stop marrying mostly Korean women for a long, long time and the Koreans will continue to exist as a distinct ethnic group, but interracial marriages will continue to flourish in Korea and will eventually become a serious minority group just as in all other countries all over the globe.
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Néa Vanille wrote:
marvelous wrote:
Not as open minded as you I hope.. It's from my expriences mind you I'm in my 30's BTW... Just like your expriences... You probably experiencing it right now... So you going to marry that Korean guy? Probably not... Soon as you finish your military or whatever business you have in KOREA you will leave... You want statistics too? You get all this from dating a guy for 1 month?
Are you going to stay in Korea or is he going to live in USA? I bet you say that right now but eventually you will marry a "WHITE" guy... Interracial marriage is still a minority percentage... It will continue to be so... I know you just can't accept the truth.. you still want some statistics?
Request for dates? Probably want to exprience foreign women... But do most of them go through with marriage?
Globalization means we all work together it has nothing todo with interracial marriage...
Now you're starting to get annoying. I just LOVE it when people I have never spoken to have all these wonderful theories about me!! No wait, I don't...
My majors in University were all Asian-related, which necessarily means that I will have to have a connection to Asia or (preferably) live there for the rest of my professional life.
For the next few years, I plan on teaching in Korea.
My boyfriend and I have known each other for a long time before we started dating each other. I don't know whether I will marry him (of course right now my feeling stell me I will, but only time will tell) but I'm pretty sure it will eventually be an Asian guy. Asian culture is too big a part of my life seeing as how I have dedicated my professional career to these languages amd Asian sociology, so dating a "white" guy with little or limited appreciation for my interest and future jobs is out of the question for me. I would consider one with equal enthusiasm and genuine respect for Asian culture, but hey, I am living and will continue to live in ASIA - the chances of meeting an Asian man whom I love is many, many, MANY times greater than finding an expat man I click with instantly.
Also, what makes you think I'm American? I am German, born and raised, as I have mentioned in dozens of threads already. Just because I speak English well enough to teach it doesn't mean it's my first language - languages merely happen to be my passion, and after mastering English, Italian and French, I set out to learn those fascinating Asian languages and haven't been able to stop trying to learn them since. And I don't think it's so unlikely my boyfriend will eventually want to live in Germany (though I won't) - he studies German at university and has a similar appetite for learning new languages.
And, honey, it's definitely you who is having illusions here. When did I ever say interracial marriages were the norm? I have mentioned too many times that 5% of marriages in Korea now involve foreigners, exclusing the high number of Korean women who marry white Americans in the United States and not in Korea. 5% is, doubtlessly, a minority - but it is a high enough percentage to illustrate the growing trend. Just a few years earlier, the percentage was a lot lower. And that, my dear, is a
fact, and it will continue to remain being one whether you like it or not.
I don't even know what you are arguing against. You obviously hate interracial marriages, but that's your cup of coffee - it shouldn't blind you to the reality that statistics show that Korea is opening itself to foreigners due to globalization and the abortion of female embryos, which will result in a 128 Korean men for every 100 Korean women ratio in 2010. Whether you believe that interracial marriages make sense or not isn't the issue - that was thoroughly discussed in the interracial dating thread, in which, by the way, you got numerous examples of people living happily in interracial marriages and you got quite thrashed for your anti-miscenegationm propaganda. Still, I don't give a flying what you personally feel about these issues - I'll be happy as long as you stop theorizing about people you don't know and accept the truth that, yes, Korean men are marrying foreign women, and more Korean men still will marry foreign women next year and the year after. They will not stop marrying mostly Korean women for a long, long time and the Koreans will continue to exist as a distinct ethnic group, but interracial marriages will continue to flourish in Korea and will eventually become a serious minority group just as in all other countries all over the globe.
Not as annoying as you I hope... You act like interracial marraige is the norm... Well it's not... it will never be the norm... Get used to it... Only reason Koreans marrying other foreigners is because there are foreigners in Korea more than ever before... It's simple math/common sense...
Perhaps the Koreans who marry foreigners in America is because they live in America? But I see more Korean couples here than interracial ones... Go figure.. .
I'm not for interracial marriages for MYSELF. I could care less if you marry interracial have kids that doesn't get accepted by either race.
Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
marvelous wrote:
[You act like interracial marraige is the norm... .
Are you sure you understand English?
Néa Vanille wrote:
And, honey, it's definitely you who is having illusions here. When did I ever say interracial marriages were the norm? I have mentioned too many times that 5% of marriages in Korea now involve foreigners, exclusing the high number of Korean women who marry white Americans in the United States and not in Korea. 5% is, doubtlessly, a minority - but it is a high enough percentage to illustrate the growing trend.
Maybe I should try to phrase it simpler like I do for my 12-year-old students?
As for my reference to Korean women marrying American men in America, I was obviously referring to all those couples who meet in Korea and then move to the United States together. They are a minority, but they should probably account for yet another 1%. For a country that has been secluded for centuries, a 6% rate of international languages is an enormous number.
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this topic is funny. lol the korean wave is still pretty big. I can't tell the diff. between asian races. When I encounter an asian, I automatically assume they're chinese (unless I hear their accent if they have one) since where I live, most are chinese.
But I see more Korean couples here than interracial ones... Go figure.. . 
