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Thuan Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Total posts: 8 Location: Germany Age: 27 Gender: Male |
 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I doubt that one needs to understand Japanese to realize that Fukada Kyoko is a horrible actress. Or Ueto Aya. Or Ishihara Satomi.
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Thuan wrote: | | I doubt that one needs to understand Japanese to realize that Fukada Kyoko is a horrible actress. Or Ueto Aya. Or Ishihara Satomi. |
Well, very true. However, this does bring up one idea. And that is the power of the fanboy/fangirl. They are popular regardless of their talent level. Like we've mentioned in other topics, likeability is more important than the screenplay.
This is a casting nightmare. Here's the issue: you bring in a gaijin. No one is going to recognize the gaijin, so already the rating points drop down to under 10 points. The gaijin has no association with a talent agency, an entity the TV networks heavily depend on for screening of the artists. So the TV network must take it upon itself (very rare step) to find the gaijin that will fit the role. It'll end up casting some blonde male who resides in Japan and understands both Japanese and English, with no previous acting experience. That's why I made the joke about Daniel Kahl earlier: He's well established in Japan, he's recognizable because of his tabi shows, speaks fluent Japanese, and is associated with a talent agency.
Another problem is matching up a Japanese female with the gaijin. I GUARANTEE you that whoever the talent agency assigns for this gig, her numbers will DROP. I'd be suprised if a talent agency will even work with a TV network on this type of project. Her romance with a gaijin will not be popular among both the female and male viewers. This was already a stretch when they did this with Won Bin and Fukada Kyoko, but at least Won Bin was already a name among the Korean fans in Japan. Matching any female artist with a gaijin in a romance role will be suicide for her career.
That's my perspective on all this...
--- groink
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nikochanr3Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Total posts: 649 Location: NY Gender: Male |
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kenderkin88Joined: 04 May 2006 Total posts: 61 Location: Illinois, USA Age: 20 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:49 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Quote: | Honestly I think there are many good western male drama actors in the USA. You just see the Japanese actors as better because you don't understand the language, and because their style is different for you.
If you talk to real japanese people in Japan they'll tell you that most of the idols people love here are not such great actors as you think, but are exactly like some of the american actors/idols (chad michael murray, Keano, welling, the list goes on). |
LMAO! You misunderstood me.. I admire many Western actors and actresses. However, I would really prefer them not to break into Japanese movies/dramas as a whole. The same goes for Eastern actors and actresses breaking into Western movies. Opinions will always be coloured on both sides because the foreign star is 'exotic.' 'Ooooooohhh, they're exotic, how scintillating! Let's cast them in as many movies/shows as we can, to show how "in" we are with culture-crossing.'
I agree about Fukada and Ueto [I'm not familiar with Ishihara, so I'll reserve judgement] being poor actresses. While I admit that I am somewhat biased towards Japanese celebrities simply because the entire culture fascinates me, I'm also mature enough to realize this and to be able to step back and look at things from another point of view. I enjoy some crappy Japanese actors the same way that I enjoy some crappy Western actors. [Just try to convince me that Nicholas Cage is a good actor. I love him all the same, and I adore watching him act, but he's incredibly awful at it.]
Aaaaaaaaaannnnd that's my opinion. I'm off to waste my braincells elsewhere._________________ 
Currently Watching: Lawyers of Korea, When It''s At Night, Itazura na Kiss |
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zippyfluJoined: 06 Oct 2005 Total posts: 66 Location: cherry hill, nj Age: 24 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:58 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| westerners dont need to GO THROUGH drama.. they are white..azn girls have white fetish.. the story would end in one eps.
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RakkieJoined: 27 Dec 2004 Total posts: 62 Location: Melbourne Age: 29 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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it does seem perfectly acceptable for the japanese/korean men to sleep with white women in dramas however... as long as they don't make any type of commitment.
i've seen plenty of dramas where the playboy will go overseas and be seen with white girls, but he has no problem ditching them in about 30 seconds when his so-called 'true love' walks by.
there is an westerner called Daniel Henney who had a major role in My Lovely Kim Sam Soon, but he does look half Korean.
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oceansportraitJoined: 21 Oct 2005 Total posts: 67 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: Movie Post Rating: 0 |
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| I think it could work if they used someone who was a half or a non-Japanese person who grew up in Japan. That'd take care of the worries about them talking in stilted Japanese. There are many idols right now who are half-Japanese but doesn't necessarily look Japanese, such as Wentz and Becky (though I'm not saying they'd be good to be in a movie like this! They're just examples ^^). But then the problem would become the actors/actresses not being able to speak fluent English...
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to show my anger.
i really need rest....
