Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: [Discussion] Iguana no musume Post Rating: 0
Hi everyone!
I created this thread in case anyone wants to discuss spoilers or anything about the series in here. Towards the later eps in the series, things get a little crazy / confusing.
BEWARE OF SPOILERS!!!
If you've not seen all released eps, you might not want to venture farther into this thread!!
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:29 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
So has anyone watched eps 8 & 9 yet? What'd you think?
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Great call on releasing both 8 & 9 at the same time! That would have been one killer cliff hanger otherwise! ummm, no pun intended. Too bad Nobuko had to die just so Rika could finally change.
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
I really liked Nobuko... T-T I liked her a lot because she was a lot like me... Just as she was as a child I am afriad of talking in public too... So when she died... I cried soooo much!!! T-T
It's evil taking away this character... but somehow I think, Rika wouldn't have changed for real. She was talking about changing for some time.. and never really changed a lot. Always going back to her gloomy self whenever something bad happened. Now I think she really changed... because she wants to show Nobuko a happy Rika... not a sad one. ^^ I think... ^^
I absolutely love episode 9 because it has a great end...^^ Because Rika is finally really ready to change herself... ^^
It's so hard to wait for the next episodes... waaaahhh!!!! I'm sooo curious... ^^
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 9:04 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
I was really really shocked the first time I watched episodes 8 & 9, with Nobuko's death. My favorite scene, though, is when Nobuko's mom gets mad at Rika at her house. I think the actress who plays Nobuko's mom was really great when she says to Rika, "Are you trying to tell me that my daughter DIED because of YOU?" A really powerful scene.
I thought the way Nobuko died was just sooo dumb though. It's almost funny because it carried the undertone of "Never cross the street until the sign says it's okay!!" I'm sure Nobuko had never done that before in her life, and the first time she does, she gets hit by a truck.
And how much of a **** is Kaori? "I don't want to lose by default to Rika just because her friend died!" Selfish much? Damn, if you have to work that hard at convincing someone to hang out with you or like you, it's obviously not worth it.
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Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
awrittensin wrote:
I was really really shocked the first time I watched episodes 8 & 9, with Nobuko's death.
If I hadn't glanced at the episode summaries beforehand, I probably would have been stunned by Nobuko's death too.
awrittensin wrote:
My favorite scene, though, is when Nobuko's mom gets mad at Rika at her house. I think the actress who plays Nobuko's mom was really great when she says to Rika, "Are you trying to tell me that my daughter DIED because of YOU?" A really powerful scene.
That scene left an impresson on me too. I was expecting some standard "It was not your fault" response, but it felt much more real the way Nobuko's mom said it. It made me (let alone Rika) realize how much pain Nobuko's mom was suffering.
awrittensin wrote:
And how much of a **** is Kaori? "I don't want to lose by default to Rika just because her friend died!" Selfish much? Damn, if you have to work that hard at convincing someone to hang out with you or like you, it's obviously not worth it.
Kaori selfish? Definitely. But we are getting some insights into Kaori's past that help us understand how she became the way she is. It's not an excuse for her behaviour, but it helps us understand.
In some respects, this show is exploring challenges to self-esteem and the different responses one can take. Rika, Nobuko, and Kaori are different examples of these challenges and responses.
Thanks so much for sharing this series with us awrittensin.
Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
awrittensin wrote:
I thought the way Nobuko died was just sooo dumb though. It's almost funny because it carried the undertone of "Never cross the street until the sign says it's okay!!" I'm sure Nobuko had never done that before in her life, and the first time she does, she gets hit by a truck.
And you actually knew it would happen... the scene she got when she was at home... and the call from her boyfriend... From that scene on... you really knew it... >.>
I alkso thought... it was kind of stupoid... Accidents happen, that's true... but this is just too much bad luck... Kind of... ^^
I mean... I crossed the street when the sign was red quite often too... (yeah, I'm one of those evil kids... ^^) and this girl just crossed it once in her lifetime and got hit... O.o
Guess this really has to tell me to stop crossing streets when the sign tells me not to... >.> hehehe...
Kaori is just sooo stupid. I don't like her at all. Even the thing with her brother... it couldn't help me a lot to change it. I just thought: So now she has some bad luck too. She is bad to others and hurt them, she deserves it (yeah, I really hate her... ^^)
I started to dislike Nobru too a bit... Cause he always fell for Kaori and he aslo never really said or did something to stop her... Although I think he could have... Also, when he doesn't like her so much to be his girlfriend... and he should have stopped to send her signs that nake her think she can... Like going on a trip with her, on going to that amusement park... It's not really something I would do with someone who obviously likes me a lot... >.>
Then I was happy that he ran after Rika to help her, although Kaori tried to stop him... So now he's up again on the I-Like List... hehehe... ^^
Have to go to bed now... ^^
Have a good night!!! ^________^
Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:50 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0
Hello everyone,
just thinking to post my view here. I started to watch this series after I read the storyline in wiki-addicts. At first I thought it was just like another jdorama I watch. I don't know if someone notices, jdoramas recently become too slow either in the storyline, movements or conversation. Makes me half slept to watch them.
But when I watch the first episode of this dorama, I think it kinda move fast and made me wondering 'what is going to happen next'. I read that this dorama is out in 1996. Well, during 80's to 90's there are lots of good jdorama produces. Good 'ol days huh!
Back to the dorama, this is a must watch dorama for me. Eventhough the casts are not so good looking but they really act well. And I fall for Rika character in this drama. The actress really did a good job.
A big thanks to awrittensin for bringing up this drama for everyone. You sure rock!!!
Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:20 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
The way Kanno Miho's voice slightly trembles when she says "If that's what you want, Mom... then it's okay with me" gets me every time.
I was bawling when I was making the subs for that episode!
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:29 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
I just finished the drama and it's a great drama. I'm also confused why the mother hates the daughter so much...yet u see moments where she loves her child. The last episode was freaking confusing...kinda left me empty...wanted to see more...should make a sequel...hehe.
When ya think about it, ppl hate each other cuz of how we look all of the tim and for the little things...and Iguana is a big thing..so I guess I can somewhat understand.
This is the first drama I'd ever wrote about...I usually just watch and that's it. I was searching for a j-drama info and I found that there's a guide on Amazon and Iguana is on the cover...WOW. I think it deserves to be cuz Jdrama is very unique.
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:35 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
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Why is Rika not able to love her daughter? From what is shown, she doesn't look like an iguana in her eyes, so then why? Just wondering.
I'm not sure, either. I thought it was a strange statement for Rika to make, because she's always been a caring person towards anyone, no matter what they did to her. She easily forgave her mother time and time again. So why wouldn't she love a child she had between her and Noboru? It doesn't make sense to me, but that's definitely what she said. That line bothered me a lot because it really seems out of place.
So did anyone else think it was ridiculous that 2 people in the show died from walking out into the road and getting hit by cars?
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Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
oh, I believed the line the way you translated it, it just bothered me that the writers of the show put that in there when it didn't make any sense and no explanation was given as to why she would hate her daughter. As you said, Rika was such a loving and forgiving person.
and yes, I guess that was a bit overkill, two people dying from stepping out onto the road. At least we get to see Rika's mom finally showing her some love at the end, even though it wasn't actually Rika.
btw, does anyone know who plays the younger Rika? She's not listed in any of the cast, even on the japanese website. Just wondering because she looks familiar as though i've seen her in another drama or movie before.
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0
I haven't seen the last episode yet, but from what I remember of the manga, Rika had a reaction slightly similar to her mother's when her baby was born. This was mainly because she saw her baby as a human child (she was expecting a cross between an iguana and a bull...long story) and was really afraid that she wouldn't be able to relate to her.
Of course, things eventually worked out...
(After I get done with ep 11, I'll probably have much much more to say, as I've been kinda saving it all until I'm done)
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That would have been one killer cliff hanger otherwise! ummm, no pun intended. Too bad Nobuko had to die just so Rika could finally change.
