Quick question for those who know Japanese

Ok, this is gonna seem random, but I do have a purpose for asking this.

If I wanted to say "The firefly's hope" in Japanese, it would be...

Hotaru no kibou

Right? Or if not, what would it be?

Thanks!

(Sorry this seems random, but I do have a purpose for asking this, but I can't give out details for fear of people stealing my ideas. ^^0)

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:26 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Yup that looks right.

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:36 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

How about "Hotaru no nozomi" ?? Unsure

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:09 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

FansubWiki · Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

This thread should be in General Discussions. Blink

Kibou and Nozomi can both be nouns or verbs, depending on use. Kibou as verb would mean 'to request'. Nozomi as noun is 'hope' or 'wish'.
"(someone) no kibou" sounds like a request or demand in Japanese. Kibou is more like "Hope for (someone)" than "(someone)'s hope".

I would go with Sabre's "Hotaru no Nozomi". Unless... You mean like "This place is the firefly's (last/best) hope for survival".

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:53 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Well, now I'm confused. Should I use kibou or nozomi? scratch

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:07 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

My vote goes for "faia- furai no ho-pu" Smile

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:26 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I can't really give any advice b/c I don't know the context. There's no sentence, elaboration, or knowledge of what is going on w/ the firefly. sweating

It's probably just me.... But what little I grabbed of it, nozomi sounds better. But, that is the opinion of a non-fluent person who didn't really think about it. Laugh

I already know my Japanese knowledge is sucking more and more daily from lack of use, but in my experience, many many many times I hear or read something in Japanese that makes total sense in my head and I fully understand it, but just cannot pick the correct English words to explain it. I feel that there are sooooooo many times that translations for Japanese to English and English to Japanese just don't fit exactly.

Since the original description is in English, I wouldn't disagree w/ using 蛍のホープ (Hotaru no Hope).

Not sure if it helps at all b/c I was never fluent in Japanese, but I was taught or at least understood that the verb 望む (where nozomi/望み comes from) was like desiring or wishing (for success or happiness, or something like that). But then again, I *rarely* heard kibou used. And, uh, which kibou is it? Aren't there a few kanji combos for it, like 2 or 3? Kibou seems too complicated to get into, for me, anyway Alcoholic

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:48 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Well as people have noted, you really can't decide without knowing the context.

Let me say this, Nozomi is yamato kotoba, meaning a native Japanese word. And Kibou is kanji, meaning originally it was a Chinese word.

The general rule of thumb is that the yamato kotoba are more informal, warmer, while the originally Chinese words are more formal, cooler.

Both are fine but it will depend on the context if you want to find the best fit.

And finally in contemporary Japanese, there's a flood of Western words, most of which are used when you want to convey hipness. So Hoopu is also a fully acceptable candidate.

(But I wouldn't use Firefly, that English word hasn't become part of the Japanese language, [yet?])

On a totally different side note, I think this explains why many Japanese still don't like to use "ai shiteru" and prefer "suki," "daisuki," or "koi shiteru." Ai is a Chinese term and it still has that formal, coolness attached to it. While the other three are all yamato kotoba.

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Well, from what everyone has said, I think I'll use nozomi then.

Thanks everyone for your help and input!

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:24 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:57 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0