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lorac Joined: 15 May 2004 Total posts: 499 Location: California Gender: Female |
 Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I only meant that questioning another Koreans spelling is a minor point, since the words are Romanized in many ways! So, does your mom watch the drama with you? How does she like it, and what pleases her the most? Check the Seo Dong Soompi forum for availability of the file. A notice It is usually posted there first.
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MousieJoined: 13 Feb 2006 Total posts: 38 Location: Guam U.S. Outlaying Minor Island Age: 25 Gender: Female |
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loracJoined: 15 May 2004 Total posts: 499 Location: California Gender: Female |
| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject: episode 50 uploaded Post Rating: 0 |
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Episode 50, illustrated version of the synopsis/translation has been uploaded to Hou Leng Jai. Also, priscilla has posted ep 51 text version at Soompi.
http://www.redshift.com/~lorac/seodongyo5.html
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naughtynightelfJoined: 17 Mar 2006 Location: Canada Gender: Male |
| Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 9:11 am Post subject: Seo Dong Yo (Ballad of Seo Dong) Post Rating: 0 |
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Seo Dong Yo (Ballad of Seo Dong?)
Dang it! It's so hard to find anything.. nevermind the torrents for this drama. IT'S DAMN GOOD. Sure it's old historical-ish, but I think it's a real good love/drama/war story.
SOMEONE GET THIS! I am on episode 53, but I want to get this in my hands so I can burn them on DVD!
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loracJoined: 15 May 2004 Total posts: 499 Location: California Gender: Female |
| Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Clubbox is the way to d/l Seo Dong Yo. It's quick, reliable and avialable the same day as shown in Korea....that is considering the time zones. Several CB have the HQ, and LQ.
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naughtynightelfJoined: 17 Mar 2006 Location: Canada Gender: Male |
| Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| man I dunno how to use clubbox.. It seems complicated:s how do I used it? search and dl, like kazaa?
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loracJoined: 15 May 2004 Total posts: 499 Location: California Gender: Female |
| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:54 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Both D-Addicts and Soompi have threads explaining how to register and use the program. Give it a try ... or if you have a friend who is Korean, ask them to register you! It can be tricky, but once you get the hang of it I'm sure you will like it ... CB has lots of movies! And like with Seo Dong Yo, we are watching the day of release, even before the video stores get copies.
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MousieJoined: 13 Feb 2006 Total posts: 38 Location: Guam U.S. Outlaying Minor Island Age: 25 Gender: Female |
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kodokoJoined: 26 Dec 2005 Total posts: 105 Location: Singapore Gender: Female |
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SpielbolJoined: 06 Apr 2006 Total posts: 5 Location: USA Gender: Male |
| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 4:00 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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My first post and I need to vent my frustration.
Summary: A crappy male version of Dae Jang Geum.
I must disagree as this frustrating drama is average at best as it certainly has some entertainment value, but great???
Expecting he same korean melodramatic, unrealistic cliche with beautiful people when I downloaded this. But, this drama's melodramatic crap is overdone, especially given the length of the drama. The sheer waste of films on displaying 10-20 instances of serendipity between the leading actor/actress is somewhat retarded. The stupid and irrational decisions (I am not even talking about his decisions in regarding to his relationship with the shilla princess) that the male main character Seo dong makes me want to kick his butt. True, these stupid decisions drive the plot and lengthen the drama, but to what end? More stupid decisions and unnecessary deaths leading to a 55-episode "Ahem... the horse is dead so stop beating it, dude" drama. I don't understand korean, but going by the subtitles some of the explanations he mentioned justifying his retarded decisions doesn't even make sense.
I respect the admirable love between the main characters. That's OK because without that it wouldn't be a korean drama and I am sure the audiences would be disappointed. I also enjoyed the technological advances seen in the drama though the way they portrayed paekche make me almost believed that they were the ones who invented the internet. I don't know korean history may be someone can enlighten me how much of the inventions seen in the drama is real history such as if the credit of inventing what seems to be a katana belongs to korea? The military tactics seen is right out from romance of three kingdoms (borrowing arrows like kong min or giving up the emperor jade like sun ce did to borrow troops).
I think the portrayal of the main male character was poor. He did not change his acting throughout the drama. His goddamn facial expression is the freaking same on episode 50 as he was on episode 20. Why the hell do we have to waste half a epsiode during Episode 40-something to explain why the main character is so special as a prince that the professor should help him? May be they should have done a better job in fleshing out the character rather than seeing him in short sequences trying to appear deep in thought as he stared into empty space like a statue for 99th time! By episode 50, I still don't know who the prince as a character is except he is in this forbidden, undying relationship with a ex-shilla princess who had given up everything for him while he seems to make retarded decisions that gets everybody killed. Whatever, I know that during the first ten episodes when he killed his childhood friend. I think he deserves to suffer and he hasn't done anything up to epsiode 50 that changed my mind.
The lead actress is a typical eye-candy who did a decent job of acting the character of the shilla princess. However, I found the antagonist female professor turned paekche princess excellently portrayed. I can understand her point of view... I can understand why she had wanted to tell her brother the true identity of the prince, but stopped because she loves the bastard prince of paekche. It is both dramatic AND realistic. I can understand the inner conflict of her love and hate (because of prince's betrayal and identity) relationship with him. On the other hand, the main male lead acted like she is just a tool. how is this? Seo dong to the paekche princess after embarassing herself to rescue him from death: "Oh I can do whatever you want, but just take back saying that your heart is taken away by me!" WTF? I didn't know he was supposed to be the sensitive type. I think he is deranged.
The main male character is may have personality similar to Yang Guo in the chinese novel of Return of Condor Heros. Although Yang Guo loves and cares about his girl, he makes smart/less irrational decisions and is not selfish enough to get other people killed in the process.
A melodrama devoid of reality with a deranged lead character is legal torture.
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RonTheManJoined: 05 Aug 2004 Total posts: 188 Location: Singapore Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Wah, you really condemn this drama. And to think that I was on the verge on deciding whether or not to download the series. Now I will just put off the downloading for the time being.
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kodokoJoined: 26 Dec 2005 Total posts: 105 Location: Singapore Gender: Female |
| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Spielbol wrote: | My first post and I need to vent my frustration.
Summary: A crappy male version of Dae Jang Geum.
I must disagree as this frustrating drama is average at best as it certainly has some entertainment value, but great???
Expecting he same korean melodramatic, unrealistic cliche with beautiful people when I downloaded this. But, this drama's melodramatic crap is overdone, especially given the length of the drama. The sheer waste of films on displaying 10-20 instances of serendipity between the leading actor/actress is somewhat retarded. The stupid and irrational decisions (I am not even talking about his decisions in regarding to his relationship with the shilla princess) that the male main character Seo dong makes me want to kick his butt. True, these stupid decisions drive the plot and lengthen the drama, but to what end? More stupid decisions and unnecessary deaths leading to a 55-episode "Ahem... the horse is dead so stop beating it, dude" drama. I don't understand korean, but going by the subtitles some of the explanations he mentioned justifying his retarded decisions doesn't even make sense.
I respect the admirable love between the main characters. That's OK because without that it wouldn't be a korean drama and I am sure the audiences would be disappointed. I also enjoyed the technological advances seen in the drama though the way they portrayed paekche make me almost believed that they were the ones who invented the internet. I don't know korean history may be someone can enlighten me how much of the inventions seen in the drama is real history such as if the credit of inventing what seems to be a katana belongs to korea? The military tactics seen is right out from romance of three kingdoms (borrowing arrows like kong min or giving up the emperor jade like sun ce did to borrow troops).
I think the portrayal of the main male character was poor. He did not change his acting throughout the drama. His goddamn facial expression is the freaking same on episode 50 as he was on episode 20. Why the hell do we have to waste half a epsiode during Episode 40-something to explain why the main character is so special as a prince that the professor should help him? May be they should have done a better job in fleshing out the character rather than seeing him in short sequences trying to appear deep in thought as he stared into empty space like a statue for 99th time! By episode 50, I still don't know who the prince as a character is except he is in this forbidden, undying relationship with a ex-shilla princess who had given up everything for him while he seems to make retarded decisions that gets everybody killed. Whatever, I know that during the first ten episodes when he killed his childhood friend. I think he deserves to suffer and he hasn't done anything up to epsiode 50 that changed my mind.
The lead actress is a typical eye-candy who did a decent job of acting the character of the shilla princess. However, I found the antagonist female professor turned paekche princess excellently portrayed. I can understand her point of view... I can understand why she had wanted to tell her brother the true identity of the prince, but stopped because she loves the bastard prince of paekche. It is both dramatic AND realistic. I can understand the inner conflict of her love and hate (because of prince's betrayal and identity) relationship with him. On the other hand, the main male lead acted like she is just a tool. how is this? Seo dong to the paekche princess after embarassing herself to rescue him from death: "Oh I can do whatever you want, but just take back saying that your heart is taken away by me!" WTF? I didn't know he was supposed to be the sensitive type. I think he is deranged.
The main male character is may have personality similar to Yang Guo in the chinese novel of Return of Condor Heros. Although Yang Guo loves and cares about his girl, he makes smart/less irrational decisions and is not selfish enough to get other people killed in the process.
A melodrama devoid of reality with a deranged lead character is legal torture. |
Hahaha, the drama is not that bad. I actually enjoyed the drama in overall. But you are right that the scene which SeoDong borrow arrows from enemy is not an original idea.
But if you say he killed his childhood friend and he deserves to suffer. I would differ from your opinion. Remember, he lived in guilt for ten years and was ostracized from his countrymen. All he wanted to do is to say farewell to his only friend in Shilla before leaving and I guessed it would be human to do so. And he is only ten to twelve years old at that time, he is not mature enough to think of the consequences. It is somehow similar to Dae Jang Geum that when she was a child she caused the deaths of her parents by blurting out her parents 's true identity.
As for the part that he rejected Paekche princess, he is being only truthful to his feelings and do not deceive himself to save his own skin. Isn't it more admirable? He could have led her on till he become the King of Paekche. Remember that part his followers tried to kill Paekche princess to prevent her to blurt out he is the fourth prince. He would rather not be the King than kill the innocent. And where did you get the idea that he caused the death of innocent by making smart/less irrational decisions? (other than his childhood friend) I could not recall at all  In fact, he gave up the chance of returning to the palace and willing to be condemn as a slave when he saw his people suffering when building the dam. If you are refering to the people who are killed during the process of helping him to become King, I would say this is unavoidable. In war(internal or external), killing and sacrifices are common.
As certain scenes are totally unnecessary. I would agree with you. But which kdrama does not dragged on and on? 
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naughtynightelfJoined: 17 Mar 2006 Location: Canada Gender: Male |
| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I can see where all the ranting comes from.. but only if you could watch the drama without subs and see the raw version... there are many things said that cannot be translated to eng. Gotta get the original to appreciate.
And yes, understanding the korean custom and tradition and values.. history and other junk will help you understand why ppl do what they do.
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loracJoined: 15 May 2004 Total posts: 499 Location: California Gender: Female |
| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Wow, this is the first real criticism of Seo Dong Yo that I've read in an English forum. Although I don't share the opinion, everyone has a right to express theirs. Keeps the world spinning.
Did you watch the poor quality English subbed version or the Chinese? Maybe that is where the problem lies. Everyone who speaks Korean says the dialogue is poetic and epic. I've watched most of this drama without knowing the dialogue, and found it compelling. I also think that Jo Hyun Jae grew along with the character Seo Dong Yo. BTW, the scenes of silent contemplation is expressive of the Maitreya, 'the contemplative prince" of Buddhism.
For those who are interested, I've posted the English translationfor episode 53, illustrated with images at my site, Hou Leng Jai. Here is a link ... episodes 54 and 55 will follow.
http://www.redshift.com/~lorac/seodongyo6.html
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kodokoJoined: 26 Dec 2005 Total posts: 105 Location: Singapore Gender: Female |
| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:09 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| lorac wrote: | Wow, this is the first real criticism of Seo Dong Yo that I've read in an English forum. Although I don't share the opinion, everyone has a right to express theirs. Keeps the world spinning.
Did you watch the poor quality English subbed version or the Chinese? Maybe that is where the problem lies. Everyone who speaks Korean says the dialogue is poetic and epic. I've watched most of this drama without knowing the dialogue, and found it compelling. I also think that Jo Hyun Jae grew along with the character Seo Dong Yo. BTW, the scenes of silent contemplation is expressive of the Maitreya, 'the contemplative prince" of Buddhism.
For those who are interested, I've posted the English translationfor episode 53, illustrated with images at my site, Hou Leng Jai. Here is a link ... episodes 54 and 55 will follow.
http://www.redshift.com/~lorac/seodongyo6.html |
I have watched the Chinese-subbed version of Seodongyo. I must say the Chinese subbers have done a excellent job. So I have enjoyed myself watching this drama. I can understand why you and naughtynightelf suggested watch in raw cos the real meaning of the drama is lost through the translation. But non-korean speaking people like Spielbol and me need kind subbers around to help us understand the drama better.
naughtynightelf
| Quote: | | And yes, understanding the korean custom and tradition and values.. history and other junk will help you understand why ppl do what they do. |
And I agreed with naughtynightelf that Spielbol's frustration comes with poor understanding of the drama, the problem does NOT lies with the subbers. I have gave Spielbol some explanation of why things happened and SeoDong 's actions towards these situations in my previous post.
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. Until it's me whose like, "mom did you get the next tape?"
. THough I'm morely interested in historical dramas than modern ones. ^__^
its like download anime... 
Initially, I thought it would end at episode 70 like Dae Jang Geum. I did not expect it to end so fast cos I thought someone mentioned that the show would end it run in June? 
