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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote
well, honestly. I think that the "submissive" japanese women is an untrue cliché. For what I can tell. Japanese women tend to look like that but I think that they are often very strongly minded in fact. If you disagree with a japanese woman, she will try to avoid any conflict or fight but if you goes on and stick to the discussion you will face a wall! a wall of concrete!!! Laugh and after that it's useless to continue.

With french woman for exemple, you can keep on and have a chance to finally mess up their mind !!! There is no limit to the discussion with a french woman, with a japanese when it's finished it's finished Laugh
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So, having an associates degree isn't really worthless? I'm moving there in 2 years as soon as I graduate from college, which by then I'll have my associates degree. But, where exactly would I do a job search for Japan? I'm going into the IT industry and want to know if there are such jobs for foreigners in Japan.


From my understanding If you are a U.S. Citizen one will need a bachelors (4 year degree) to meet one of the the immigration requirements (Immigration, not employer) in order to get a work visa.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 4:06 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote
spacecommand wrote:
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So, having an associates degree isn't really worthless? I'm moving there in 2 years as soon as I graduate from college, which by then I'll have my associates degree. But, where exactly would I do a job search for Japan? I'm going into the IT industry and want to know if there are such jobs for foreigners in Japan.


From my understanding If you are a U.S. Citizen one will need a bachelors (4 year degree) to meet one of the the immigration requirements (Immigration, not employer) in order to get a work visa.


Really? So i'd have to go another 2 years so I can live in Japan? I was plannig on moving right after I graduated which I would recieve my associates in 2 years.. Glare I guess I have to continue my education..Oh well, maybe it'll give me more time to study Japanese..

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A lot of people have been recommending Eikaiwas in Japan. I used to work for one (NOVA, for about 8 months). Honestly, I overall was NOT pleased with the company and left as soon as another opportunity presented itself (I am still living in Tokyo with no plans to ever leave), but I know some people who love the company. I think that most eikaiwas are alike, and really it comes down to why you want to come to Japan. If you want to come to enjoy things like festivals, then an Eikaiwa may not be the best solution, as they often have you work on most/all of the public holidays and on Sundays, which is when most of the cultural festivals are held. If you want to come to travel, then an Eikaiwa is good, because often they're very flexible after you get your vacation time and you can travel in the off-seasons, therefore making everything less crowded and usually cheaper.

If you're coming because of the pop culture and to go to concerts and events and things like that, I do NOT suggest an Eikaiwa. I was miserable, having to skip a lot of events or just plain call in to work because I couldn't get the time off. I wasn't realy inspired at all by my company. But it's really your call.

Also, I suggest thinking about whether you really want to teach english. Yes, it's an easy job. Yes, it's an easy way into the country (this is why I took this route), but if you're not enthusiastic about teaching, eventually it will wear thin. ^.^ Just something to think about! I really HATE teaching english, so I'm feverishly working to get into my chosen field here. The language barrier is big, but there are a lot of opportunities for foreigners if you just look around!!!

I really hope that you are able to make a good decision! Keep us informed!! ^___^ If you come to Tokyo, I'm always happy to hang out with new people! ^^ I will always be here!


Also, on discrimination.. I heard from old coworkers that they've seen bars that don't allow foreigners, and been told sometimes that the bar is too full for them when it's not. I don't go to bars often, so I've never experienced it myself though. But I WAS refused entrance to a love hotel once, in Shibuya of all places! O.o My friends and I wanted to go in one just to see what they were like, so my friend walked in to the lobby, and as soon as she did, she was met with the angry old clerk shouting, "If you don't understand Japanese, get out!!!" In japanese! ^_^;;;; They don't make 'em all smart, I suppose. ^^;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; She just said "wa-ka-ta!" and walked out and we had a good **** fest outside about him. ^^;;; dur.


Thanks for the advice. Smile I don't think of becoming a school teacher though. Even though that is probably the easiest way to getting a job in Japan... It just doesn't appeal to me.
I'm not really going to college for that anyway...

I'm going mosty for the culture and to experience something new, such as , how they live and ethics and such. I guess you can say I'm going for the "pop culture"...I hope my job doesn't affect that too much. I don't want to over-work as Japan is known for, or so I've heard. I don't want to stereotype anyone. I want to find a good job that will allow me the freedom to have a good schedule..

As for discrimination, that's probably the only thing I dislike about Japan right now. Sorry to hear about your friend, I hope I don't have the same experience. I've posted this site before but I'll post it again: http://www.debito.org/ It explains how Japan is changing and the discrimination laws are not as bad as they used to be.

^^I'll be sure to keep you informed! If I ever go to Tokyo, maybe we'll see each other. Smile

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well, honestly. I think that the "submissive" japanese women is an untrue cliché. For what I can tell. Japanese women tend to look like that but I think that they are often very strongly minded in fact. If you disagree with a japanese woman, she will try to avoid any conflict or fight but if you goes on and stick to the discussion you will face a wall! a wall of concrete!! ! Laugh and after that it's useless to continue.


I agree and really admire them for that. It's always useless to continue and I like how they try to avoid conflict. I'm the same way.

-Sorry for quoting so much..

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:11 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote
just wanted to add my own thoughts on this thread here. i'm chinese-american and my girlfriend is japanese. there was an entry earlier in this thread saying how 'foreigners' are limited to japanese girls that are interested in 'foreign lands' or whatnot. you guys got it lucky. being an asian foreinger is even worse if you're wanting to date a japanese girl. even my girlfriend tells me 'japanese girls don't like chinese guys'. at least you doods got a following.

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[quote="20centuryboy"]well, honestly. I think that the "submissive" japanese women is an untrue cliché. For what I can tell. Japanese women tend to look like that but I think that they are often very strongly minded in fact. If you disagree with a japanese woman, she will try to avoid any conflict or fight but if you goes on and stick to the discussion you will face a wall! a wall of concrete!!! Laugh and after that it's useless to continue.


you're right about that wall. that wall of concrete! my girlfriend does that to me all the time. but she is quite submissive..to the point of annoyance. i've only dated american girls (asian and white) before, and they were all quite feisty. i like my women opinionated and having a little attitude.
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