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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: Gaijin (Foreign) Romances   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I know this is kind of a weird topic but, as the topic says, are foreign romances looked down upon or not good? I'm moving to Japan in a few years and would like to get married one day but, are there any problems undergoing this?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I've been accepted without any problems by the japanese family of my wife. They are very patient even when you make the usual foreigner's mistakes. But I heard some case where it was a little cold at first.

Don't use the term "gaijin" with japaneses, it's a very unpolite word and it makes most of them very unconfortable when it's used in front of them. Like saying " hahahaha! you're a racist country" (wich they are not at all, just that there is a bit of racism like everywhere, but there it's against white people, something we are not used too so we react ).

You already planning to marry a japanese girl before meeting her? Blink
You have time to fall for a swedish and move to Stockholm before you know it! Laugh

Maybe you will experience the "human dictionnary " thing before you find a Girlfriend in Japan.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:29 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Hmm... My lady's family was uncomfortable with the idea until they met me. It was like "If we don't like him, we're going back in a month". Dad went back after 2 years to take care of things at home, and mom's a resident alien these days....

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

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I've been accepted without any problems by the japanese family of my wife. They are very patient even when you make the usual foreigner's mistakes. But I heard some case where it was a little cold at first.

Don't use the term "gaijin" with japaneses, it's a very unpolite word and it makes most of them very unconfortable when it's used in front of them. Like saying " hahahaha! you're a racist country" (wich they are not at all, just that there is a bit of racism like everywhere, but there it's against white people, something we are not used too so we react ).

You already planning to marry a japanese girl before meeting her? Blink
You have time to fall for a swedish and move to Stockholm before you know it! Laugh

Maybe you will experience the "human dictionnary " thing before you find a Girlfriend in Japan.


I was hoping they'd be patient... I just don't want them to treat me too differently or anything like that. Thanks for the tip on using the word "Gaijin". I use it a fair amount or times thinking it's a normal everyday word. I won't use it anymore...or try not to anyways.

Hehe, yeah, I guess It does seem like I'm planning on marrying a Japanese girl before meeting her... Laugh Well, I'm still too young to be thinking about marriage and by the time I move over there, I'll probably still be to young, but I certainly do want to get married...
Swedish girl? Maybe...you never know what the future may hold... Roll Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 1:42 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

albertoavena: you're moving to Japan? I hope to do that too, but I want to know the criteria that I have to meet in order to do that. Can you give me some information about it? btw i love your sig, densha otoko Big Smile

I don't think they would mind a foreigner, they've got a pretty weird culture, they accept a lot of different culture, but somehow maintain their own uniqueness and customs
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:35 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

since this is specific to jp, i'm moving to Jp Entertainment.

good luck in getting your jp girlfriend! Big Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

hope she will be entertaining ! Laugh
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Thanks everyone!! I appreciate all you support. Thanks for moving my topic too. I was wondering where it was..

Yes, I hope she's entertaining, I guess...I should study Japanese alot more so there's no language difficullties. Big Smile I can't wait to move!


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albertoavena: you're moving to Japan? I hope to do that too, but I want to know the criteria that I have to meet in order to do that. Can you give me some information about it? btw i love your sig, densha otoko Big Smile

I don't think they would mind a foreigner, they've got a pretty weird culture, they accept a lot of different culture, but somehow maintain their own uniqueness and customs


Thanks for the sig comment, yes, Densha Otoko is the best! I agree, even though they are influenced by American things, they still seem to maintain traditional customs in many ways. To answer your question, I'm moving after I graduate from college and hopefully find a job. I have to find a good employer. As for the criteria you have to meet, I guess you have to have some Japanese knowldge and be able to speak it. Also, if you thinking of becoming a permanent resident, as I am doing as well, check out this page: http://www.jpop.com/jforum/index.php?showtopic=2761. Explains the steps to becoming a permanent resident. If you go to college, you should look into some study abroad programs. I can't really do that seeing as how I go to a tech school and they don't offer programs like that. Glare I'm also planning on taking the Japanese Language Proficiency Test (JLPT) one day. Maybe you should look into that too.. I hope this helps. Smile

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hey thanks man... wow, lots of info... got a few years to decide (graduating high school this year)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:31 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

kendrew wrote:
hey thanks man... wow, lots of info... got a few years to decide (graduating high school this year)


yep ^^ you have plenty of time to decide... Glad I could help out! Big Smile Thanks for everybody's help once again.. If anyone has something to add to my question, it would be greatly appreciated! Laugh

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:26 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Not to put a damper on things but it really depends on your situation. I dated a few girls before meeting my wife and each of their parents reacted differently to me. Some were extremely accepting and others were severely disappointed in their daughter's choosing to date a gaijin. My wife's parents are not that thrilled about me but I think the bottom line for them is their daughter's happiness. As long as she is happy with me then they tolerate me.

Like I said, it just depends. There is some very traditional "old-school" thinking in Japan, especially in the rural areas. And then there are those who are more open and progressive in their thinking. It's like everything else. You can't generalize. Same with the word gaijin. Some people find it a touchy and others don't think anything of it. I opt for it at work instead of using gaikokujin because I couldn't care less (and because it is shorter Tongue) . My co-workers know that about me and it doesn't matter to them because I am not bothered by it.

Bottom line, you'll just have to come to Japan and experience it for yourself. There is no black and white answer for you. Having said that, I wish the best of luck to you and anyone else planning on coming to Japan.

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about finding a job... how would you go about doing that?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:31 am    Post subject: Bars, Clubs and restaurants.......   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Question for Japanese residents - Is it true that if you are a foreigner some bars, clubs and restaurants will not allow you in because you are a foreigner? I thought I heard that once.

As for finding a job - I would recommend becoming an english teacher or tutor. I heard alot of english speaking people go to Japan to teach proper english. I also heard it pays well.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

kendrew wrote:
about finding a job... how would you go about doing that?


As Keeper of hells gate2 said, being an english teacher is a great way to find employment in Japan. You would probably still have to go to college though if you want a permamnet job. If you just go and ask to be a teacher without going to college, it's usually for a small period and doesn't pay as well. If your not going to be a teacher, I suggest you find a good employer who is willing to hire you before you make the move over there.

Keeper of hells gate2 wrote:
Question for Japanese residents - Is it true that if you are a foreigner some bars, clubs and restaurants will not allow you in because you are a foreigner? I thought I heard that once.


Well, it's true to some extent. It's actually changing alot these days and most public places are starting to remove there "Japanese Only" signs. Check this site out for more information: http://www.debito.org/. It explains it fairly well of how discrimination in Japan is changing.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 4:15 am    Post subject: That makes me mad   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

LOL - Could you possibly image what would happen to me in the united states if I put up a sign at my business that said, "NO JAPANESE". The ACLU, Civil Rights Union, NAACP and just about every lawyer in the country would have a field day with me and rightfully so.
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