possible? Good grades & watch dramas?

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 1:10 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

LOL dude you had a 333 in 6th grade... we are the same age that would have been like a top of the line computer back than. I didn't even get a computer till highschool. I don't think watching dramas would have a direct relation to your grades. Only how much time you really want to put towards school and how much personal time you want. I learnt that quick in college lol.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:55 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

@ mythrel:
it was only 33mhz ! ( and it was ~2 years old by the time i got it ;) )

i still remember the time i worked for 6 weeks ( during summer holiday ) to earn enough money to uprage the ram Big Smile

( 4MB EDO ram did cost me 400 DM ( ~200 euro ) back than pinch

)
that was a lot of money for a litley boy like me Tongue

and @ school:
you only need to understand how the system works and than its easy getting good grades ;)
and thats what i was good at Smile

( math, chemie, physiks )
but i always had problems remembering booring / stupid stuff ( like history dates and such o_O )

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

watching jdorama with english subtitles actually helps in my english comprehension. Most the words the excellent english subber used are new to me and with very episode I learn new words.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Hahah ya I was gonna say. because I remember my friend bragging he got a 233 than.. haha thats funny I worked a whole summer to buy myself a computer. Spent like 600 bucks on a 233 and the guy that sold it to me moved. I tried to get ahold of him because the ram messed up.. Oh man good times... Good thing my stepfathers best friend was a computer guy and helped me build her back to 100%. lol I miss my first computer, not one word of a lie I had to format that computer like 95 times. I mastered formatting, and now I can put a computer together blindfolded. I bet its in some dump somewhere being nawed at by bears. I should have got it bronzed lol like parents do with baby shoes.

Blah sorry for going off topic.

and school is all about balance.. but dramas are so friggin addicting. They should put a warning at the start of them Laugh

Probably a good thing I didn't watch dramas during highschool because I know it would probably affect me (not like I truely studied anyway)

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:40 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I know the answer to your question !!!
Be like me don't have a personnal life ! This way, you could watch all the dramas you want while keeping time to study Laugh

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I can say this because last year, for my studies, i was tooooooo far away from hoem and hardly I came home ( i was intern ). I had to stay in my tiny room even in the week-end, eating noodle-cup and stuff like that with my only friend : Nanar ( my PC ). I had sooooo much free time and was alone. It was so boring..... And then i discorvered dramas..... And began to be late at school ( don't ever watch one serie in one night !!!! )

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:40 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I have learned from anime and dramas that you just have to download as much as you can and then wait till the weekend. It's hard to wait and be patient, but it helps a lot.

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

it can't affect your marks, but it can affect your zzzzzzz time....BIG TIME

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I don't know about the rest of you people, but I'd be DAMN surprised if someone actually posted a message saying his grades have dropped as a result of drama watching. That's the problem with polls like these... You're only going to hear from people who have good things to say about themselves.

As for the one comment where grades don't matter... It is philosophically true that it doesn't matter whether you get C's or A's -- at the end, you still get the same diploma. You may not have those decorative itty-bitty honor ribbons all over your diploma, but it doesn't matter, right? I mean, I've yet to have a potential employer ask me for a xerox copy of my diploma. What they want instead are your school transcripts. And, they can make up their mind based on those transcripts exactly what kind of a person they think you are. Maybe McDonalds doesn't care whether you're a scholar or a just-get-by-Bob.

Grades, however, is still a true measurement on not just your academics but also your character -- especially your attitude. It isn't easy getting straight A's. It takes a lot of effort. Even the gifted and talented need to work at it -- these people just have an easier time processing and retaining information. Effort is a great attribute of your overall character. Attitude is just like a muscle in your body... You've got to keep working your attitude out so it becomes stronger. A person with a positive attitude about themselves shines. Just by having a one-minute conversation with a person, any employer or other decent adult can immediately tell whether or not he or she strives in being at his or her best.

Well, maybe you'll be lucky, working at an Asian drama video store, earning minimum wage.

--- groink

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:17 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Don't take what I'm going to say to mean that doing well in school is not important (on the contrary I think you should put it as a high priority) but..out of all the interviews I've been to they haven't really asked me for my grades only what school/university did I go to and what degree did I get.

That question takes all of about 10 seconds then they move on to other questions that have nothing to do with my studies. Of course trying tell this to an asian parent and you'll get a good smacking, good grades are paramount to them but thats another story.

Having said that though, if there was a tough decision to make between 2 people with equal skills and experience they will take the one with better grades.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:23 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

hmmm this is my experience so far with interviews.. For the company I went to within the first 5 mins they would undboubtly ask for my GPA. 4 out of 5 interviews I went to, they would chit chat for 5 mins, and then pull out a test package and ask me to do problems/brain teasers for 45 mins..

In my opinion grade does matter, especially if you are getting an entry level job. I guess after 5 years the employer wont ask you about your degree but will look at your achievement in the industry instead.

That being said, maybe because the position I am applying are too technical. Also I have not been to that many interview so far...

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

I think groink has a good point its kinda hard to take shots at it lol....
Ruroshin, I went to school with an asian girl who's parents had her study like 5+ hours a day after school and at the end of it all she ended up just rebelling and resenting them. I know its stupid to say but I kinda wish my parents whooped my butt to study. Damnit why wasn't I born asian!
Crazy

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:03 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

It's important to balance your life. All work and no play may make you dull and maybe bitter. But for all you scholars out there, grades are important. More important is after getting your diploma you learned something. Don't just get by. The harder you work now the easier life will become later. Jobs like to look at GPA to guage your capacity and transcripts are there I think for employers to see what grades you got in specific subjects and other interests you have like electives and specialties. Be diverse, expand your horizon, watch drama, study hard, remember what you learned. I don't know if watching or not watching dramas is the result of good or bad grades but I think it's nice to have as long you're not sacrificing the more important things life.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:50 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

In Australia, in the state I'm living in we have an OP (overall position) system from 1 to 26 (I think 26?) 1 being the best possible score. In the USA I think you have something like SAT? I've spent 5 years preparing to get an OP and only used it once ever and have never used it again.

Anyway, the point of the OP is to get you in courses at University, courses would only consider letting you in if you have a certain OP or better. This is all every High School students and teacher focus on, to get you a good OP. The OP system tries to be fair but I think it fails, if you are ranked first in a subject for year 11 & 12 you are awarded 400 points, if you are last you get 200 points and others are scaled in between depending on how far off you were from the number 1 person. A total of 5 subjects are used so a maximum of 2000 points are possible. However, getting 2000 points in a school with not a lot of competition is not the same as getting 2000 points in a school full of uber smart people all trying to get to number one position. This is the unfair bit.

So to try and balance this out all year 12 have a year end test that last like 3 days, the school average is taken from this and is compared to other school's average and your point is scaled according to how well you did against your peers. This is where they try to be fair but it doesn't quite work because in the school with lots of smart people the school also increases its test difficulty so the normalisation doesn't quite work out. This system also doesn't factor in that the high end school will gear a lot of their teaching to make sure that the majority of their students do well in the year end test as this will raise the average and make everyone in their school get better marks while the the low end school doen't really bother. I know because I was in both type of schools. The smart student in the low end school will most likely end up with the same OP as somebody just above average in a high end school.

Parents of course will always try and get their kids to go to the high end school because of this. Not really because they teach well but because the school average is high so their kid's point will be pulled up.

Now the reason why I talked about all this is to demonstrate all the effort that goes into getting that good OP and that very OP is used exactly once in my lifetime to get that course I wanted in University at ENTRY level. What a lot of the high school kids don't know is there is another way, courses will accept you based on your University GPA first and if you don't have one then your OP. Naturally high school graduates won't have a GPA yet so all they have is their OP BUT some of the high end courses require prereqs in other courses that only requier lower OP.

My sister wanted to do Denistry, it requires an OP 1 but it also requires some prereqs in science courses and science courses are way lower I think around OP 12 or so. She spent an amazing amount of hours studying in high school and she got an OP 4, she did first year general science with her OP 4 got a good GPA applied to Denistry in her second year and got in and already done a lot of her prereqs already. I asked her if all that effort in high school was worth it, she said what she learned from it is how to study better and to study efficiently so it was worth it for her.

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:05 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

haha I think this is the longest post I have ever seen from you Ruro...
I believe going from hs to college is very different from college to career. I think people in hs should study because unless you are some genius or has a special talent in some particular area, going to a good college is the only way to achieve what you want to do when you get out to the real world. (yes, Dragon Zakura is no BS).
My point is, getting good grades is usually, not always, important in entering a new stage in life, either in getting a job or getting into college. Once you are in, you can do whatever you want.
For me personally, I think watching drama is my excuse of not thinking about the future. Unlike hs (with a clear goal of getting into college), the next step after college is not that easy to take.