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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

A little hint: Start reading this thread at page 1 and you will understand why there won't be a ratio system on D-Addicts.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

^ LOL Laugh

anyway, hi everyone! just want to make a little suggestion on the tech discussion section.

I have recently started using mac and still trying to get used to it. then I realised, there are probably many mac related problems people have asked, but they are all scattered around and making it harder to find a solution. like earlier I clicked on links from a post by a user, saying that the issue had been discussed before, but all the threads has been removed. they were all supposed to be similar problems that was discussed before.

so I was thinking if you could probably create a subsection or maybe even a sticky so people using mac, or platforms other than windows, can discuss their problems there and also making it easier for people to find problems that have been discussed before.

I know another user has made a suggestion like this before, so if this has been implemented please kindly point me to the right direction. if not, please consider this as an improvement to the site. it may also help to lessen unnecessary posts of the same problem.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:23 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I have the following suggestion:

On the upload page, add a feature where the uploader can optionally add a message/disclaimer that will be displayed when the user click the "download" link, rather than having the link automatically send the torrent. If the uploader chooses not to add a message, then the "download" link will function normally, where the torrent file will be sent immediately upon clicking the link.

When the message/disclaimer message is selected, and the user clicks "download", the message will appear, with yes/no options. If the user clicks "no", he'll be sent back to the torrent listings page. Clicking "yes" will send the torrent file to the user.

The reason for this suggestion is that several people are suggesting that despite the uploaders placing their disclaimers in the first post of the comments section, by design of D-Addicts they're just not reading it. The reason is simple - Ruroshin had to move the "download" link out of the individual torrent comments pages and onto the torrent listing page for advertising reasons. For some reason, the advertisers didn't like the link being in the comments section.

By invoking my suggestion, it gives the communications back to the uploader, so that anyone who downloads the torrent WILL see the message.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:01 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

First, thanks to Ruroshin and all others involved in making this such a great site! We have been able to get hours of high-quality entertainment because this site exists.

I also think that some kind of ratio should be considered, but I have read enough of this thread to understand the rationale behind the current scheme and have no wish to keep "beating a dead horse".

Things are getting pretty bad, though. I was recently the sole seed in a batch torrent where 6 leechers would not feed a lone straggler enough for him to make any progress catching up with the rest - the gap was actually getting bigger over time. I ended up backing off on my upload allocation to the torrent until I saw the straggler making at least some forward progress.

Just before that, in another batch of the same series, only the last 2 of the 11-or-so leechers I cleared before moving to the next batch bothered to stay around to help seed to the remaining leechers. (I would have quit seeding the series completely if those last 2 also left without helping.)

I have a couple of suggestions regarding batch downloads:

1. It might be helpful if the batches were limited in size to something like 4.3 GB or less. This would allow seeders to archive a RAW batch download - along with the related .torrent and subtitle files - on a single DVD, which could later easily be copied to a hard drive for seeding purposes. Keeping some of the longer series on hard drive can be quite a commitment of space - e.g. Golden Bride @ > 40GB. (I use Macs and the available space on a standard DVD after formatting is around 4.38 GB -- which I think is a little less than on a PC.)

2. It would also be nice if piece size was limited to no more than 1 MB. I downloaded a 10.9 GB batch torrent with 4 MB pieces recently (Evasive Inquiry Agency) where corrupted data was rampant - I had more than 3 GB of failed checksums - and "losing" 4 MB a shot hurts, especially when download speeds are very low. I think it took me something like 3 weeks to finally get the batch.

I think it was more like 4 GB+ of failed checksums, but I deleted the torrent file from my bt client after seeding to my usual 2:1 ratio so I can't be sure. Data flow was slow enough that I ran a concurrent batch torrent after awhile -- with no such problems.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:57 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

For the love of God/Allah/whatever,

PLEASE INSTALL A "THANK YOU" BUTTON!!!!

I don't know why people are doing this, but they feel that flooding a 24-episode series with 24 individual "thank you's" is necessary. Hello, McFly!!!!!! NO, the uploader does NOT need 24 individual thank you's from the SAME PERSON!!!! All he needs is ONE per person.

Use your noodle, people!!!!! Maybe some common sense will pop out.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:20 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

^ B-b-but how would we get 500 page subtitle threads like that? Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:38 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

groink wrote:
For the love of God/Allah/whatever,

PLEASE INSTALL A "THANK YOU" BUTTON!!!!

I don't know why people are doing this, but they feel that flooding a 24-episode series with 24 individual "thank you's" is necessary. Hello, McFly!!!!!! NO, the uploader does NOT need 24 individual thank you's from the SAME PERSON!!!! All he needs is ONE per person.

Use your noodle, people!!!!! Maybe some common sense will pop out.

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Aww come on Groink, I think its sweet that ppl want to show the subbers/raw providers as much love as possible ><
Like I can't thank the ppl who introduced to me Byakuyakou my favorite drama of all time. But yeah a "Thank you button" would probably be a great idea lol

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I also think it's nice for people to thank the uploaders for each individual episode. I don't see why that should be a problem...certainly not to the uploader himself/herself. How is that any different from thanking fansubbers in the subtitles forum each time a new episode subtitle is added?

Unless it's costing/causing bandwidth or server problems, I don't see why it's necessary to restrict someone from leaving a simple "thank you" every time.

Otherwise, I do find it a wise idea for a "Thank You" button to be implemented.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

lilswtangel wrote:
I also think it's nice for people to thank the uploaders for each individual episode. I don't see why that should be a problem...

I can only speak for myself. I feel that it's important to thank those who did the work, but...
I often go to a thread to find out additional information about a series. I want to hear what others thought about the series as a whole, or specific aspects of it. The thread will have 60 pages and 95% of it will be "thank you" messages. Now I can't stress this enough:
I think it's important that the subbers are thanked.
I'm not suggesting for a moment that people should stop thanking them.

But it would be nice if there was a dedicated section for this - a separate thread or something.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:11 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ssih wrote:
lilswtangel wrote:
I also think it's nice for people to thank the uploaders for each individual episode. I don't see why that should be a problem...

I can only speak for myself. I feel that it's important to thank those who did the work, but...
I often go to a thread to find out additional information about a series. I want to hear what others thought about the series as a whole, or specific aspects of it. The thread will have 60 pages and 95% of it will be "thank you" messages. Now I can't stress this enough:
I think it's important that the subbers are thanked.
I'm not suggesting for a moment that people should stop thanking them.

But it would be nice if there was a dedicated section for this - a separate thread or something.


wait, I'm confused...don't we already have separate forum that contains threads for "drama discussions"? Torrent threads usually range from 1-14 pages depending on how popular the drama is at the time.

I was referring to the "thank yous" in the torrent pages....I don't see why you would look for further information in those threads.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Sorry - I didn't know you meant torrent pages.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ssih and kuro570 have the right idea... The "thank you" posts are a distraction. When you're searching through a torrent comment topic, you're going to be bombarded with a heck of a lot of meaningless "thank you" posts, when you're trying to search for someone who mentioned, for example, why the audio/video timing is off in the episode. Also, most uploaders don't actually see the quantity of the thank you's, so really only the first few thank you's have an affect on the uploaders; the rest - they're basically ignored. If, instead, they had a "thank you" total next to the total number of posts they made, then the uploaders have an actual number they can use to gauge the popularity or appreciation of their work.

And last, I'm one of probably a few people who go to main D-Addicts page, and then click "Posts since last visit." What do I see every day? Maybe five to seven new pages - of which MOST OF THE POSTS are "thank you" posts! What use is it for me to read someone else's thank you post directed at someone other than me? I have to pour through the new post pages, read every single new post, and then discover that only one full page of posts were actually of value to the general community, and not directed at one person.

The way I've been taught message boarding is this: If you're going to thank someone, or convey any other personal message that only the uploader will appreciate, you send him a private mail (PM). Message boards is for everyone! It isn't meant to be used for private messaging on a public basis.

In short:

- The "thank you" button will give the uploader or subber an actual count of thank you's.
- "Thank you" posts, or any other posts directed at one individual is a distraction to the rest of the public.
- Messages targeted at just one person should be send via PM.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ah, I never get thanked much anyway so who cares??? Crying Crying Crying

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Implementing a "thank you" button would do wonders but I don't think sending a PM to the uploaders is going to help the situation.

Would uploaders really want their Inboxes full of thank yous from dozens of members here? Especially if uploaders like gryzze, massaru, xraymind etc post multiple torrents weekly (sometimes even daily)...

D-Addicts' message storage is quite limited and it only takes a dozen of PMS or so before the 100% quota is filled up - which sometimes block off from the more important PMs as they can't get through unless the member remembers to log in to erase older PMS.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:15 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

lilswtangel wrote:
Would uploaders really want their Inboxes full of thank yous from dozens of members here? Especially if uploaders like gryzze, massaru, xraymind etc post multiple torrents weekly (sometimes even daily)...

D-Addicts' message storage is quite limited and it only takes a dozen of PMS or so before the 100% quota is filled up - which sometimes block off from the more important PMs as they can't get through unless the member remembers to log in to erase older PMS.


The size of the PM boxes CAN be increased. The advantage of thank you's via PM is that the recipient CAN delete the message. When the same message is posted on the public forums, it occupies the SAME amount of space, BUT it'll sit there forever! The space advantage still goes to the PM box.

As a matter of fact, there's a much better chance the uploader will receive the thank you via PM than on the comments. Uploaders like myself don't bother reading our torrent comments. It even got to the point where I was requesting the uploads to be locked soon after I uploaded a file, preventing people from making comments about the torrent. I'm one of those who are not inspired by what others think. Even if I received just one thank you out of 10,000 downloads, I would still upload.

And last, my comment about the use of PM vs posting public still stands - not only to address the issue at-hand, but it is actually a documented Internet netiquette rule written years ago during the newsgroup days. Posting of message in public view should target the public at-large, and not an individual.

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