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Ruroshin Joined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2747 Gender: Male |
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jianwaJoined: 13 Apr 2004 Total posts: 394 Location: NorCali Gender: Male |
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RuroshinJoined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2747 Gender: Male |
 Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:18 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| jianwa wrote: |
Yeah the chance of them having not the same amount seeder/leecher ratio will most likely be true. BUT I still believe they would have close to 50% ratio compared with d-addicts 26% stats. So having some type of ratio would work. |
Unfortunately the difference between believing something will be true and reality is sometime quite large.  All I'm hearing is it "might work" and what I'm seeing is "doesn't quite work as well as we like". Changing to a ratio system at this point in time given d-addicts current size is non-trivial so I need a little bit more convincing than that.
Right, here's the challenge. Can somebody show me a tracker site that has over 4,000 torrents and 20,000 peers at any point in time or approximately 200,000 users (we have 20,000 registered users and about 10 times that amount that uses the tracker) uses a ratio system and is open to the public (meaning anybody can register and download). Preferably dealing with asian entertainment and has over 50% seeders to leechers ratio.
The closest I've seen is boxtorrent.
Their stats:
users 211,927
torrents 1,,894
peers 60,519
seeders 17,732
leechers 42,787
ratio 41%
close but not quite and this is from an anime community that has lots of techy ppl that is very good with seeding. If you factor in that the drama community is less tech savory you can predict the result.
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jholicJoined: 03 Feb 2004 Total posts: 6192 Location: missin' hawaii Gender: Male |
| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:47 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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first of all, thanks for starting this thread, Ruro! we're always looking for ways to improve.
secondly, let's not turn this thread into a "make d-addicts a ratio site" debate. we already have a thread for that: A Ratio-Based Tracker (Banning Leechers)
but as Ruro mentioned, i have also seen the advantages AND disadvantages of having a ratio tracker. others may have seen that i have also suggested mandating a .30 to .50 share ratio. but that also invites a lot of controversy.
ironically, ratio sites are not without their own share of controversy. i just skimmed through several pages of a thread at FSS ("Where do we draw the line...."). members brought up great points and interesting perspectives into maintaining the ratio site.
to me, it is asking A LOT of Ruro to convert d-addicts over, and are the benefits worth it? it's hard to say. i still say a very effective method is EDUCATION. keep spreading this message: sharing keeps bittorrent alive!
do you enjoy getting this for free? well, then just share it. seed others, and others will seed you. it's not about the greed .... it's about the seed._________________ Use THUMBS UP/DOWN buttons to KEEP or DELETE posts.
If you see SPAM or ABUSE, use the REPORT button. |
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jianwaJoined: 13 Apr 2004 Total posts: 394 Location: NorCali Gender: Male |
| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:10 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| jholic wrote: |
but that also invites a lot of controversy.
ironically, ratio sites are not without their own share of controversy. i just skimmed through several pages of a thread at FSS ("Where do we draw the line...."). members brought up great points and interesting perspectives into maintaining the ratio site.
to me, it is asking A LOT of Ruro to convert d-addicts over, and are the benefits worth it? it's hard to say. i still say a very effective method is EDUCATION. keep spreading this message: sharing keeps bittorrent alive!
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Agree on inviting controversy. This will be my last ratio comment.
FSS discussion, they keep a 1:1 like ratio which is strict. But for d-addicts, it should really be relaxed to like their is no ratio like around 1:4. Maybe find a way to add user participation count toward increasing the ratio??? Educating does not work all the time? Do we read all the manuals that comes with the electronic device? No, we just open and press buttons. I just think we should implement a VERY RELAXED ratio system.
It sends a message, "You may download a lot, but there is a limit we can take from you leeching all the time." Of course, I don't believe leechers should be banned at all. Just don't let them download.
That's all. ZZZZZZzzzzz.....should I check grammer/spelling? Naaaah! 
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RomanceJoined: 18 Jun 2005 Total posts: 689 |
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groinkLocation: Hawaii Age: 41 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Romance wrote: | | A ratio would make LOADS of people leave this board and try to find the files elswhere, or something, believe me, it might sound dumb as its their own fault and yeahyeah, but wtf its good as it is now.new people are registrating everyday and the dramas are spread |
I'm already seeing this trend... Can you say "Clubbox"????? IMHO, other client/server services like Clubbox is more of a "f**k you P2P" statement than just an alternative way of obtaining content.
--- groink
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RuroshinJoined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2747 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:48 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| you can save your preference for the custom tab now if you're logged in.
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AtomicLocation: Toronto/Manila Gender: Male |
| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:03 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Howbout forcing all guests to register in order to download torrents? I'm not saying it'd help out in seeding ratio, but at least they should thank the people who upload the new dramas or translate the dramas..
In total there are 140 users online :: 24 Registered, 4 Hidden and 112 Guests ... Stats 5 minutes ago.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Why force somebody to register, they would still just be idle in the forum. If you have more than just "they should thank the people who upload" it might be worth considering.
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ToreiJoined: 23 Mar 2005 Total posts: 7 Location: Kyoto, Japan Gender: Male |
| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:02 pm Post subject: Other Suggested Improvements Post Rating: 0 |
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It would be very interesting to see what other people are watching in a statistical kind of way (OK, I've searched around and maybe I've missed the fact that this feature exists already). But, It would be great if the stats were a bit more comprehensive in this area. For example, it is obvious that jdrama is popular but which one series is the most popular?
Of course, the problem is that d/l stat do not necessarily equal popularly or even what people would recommend. So, although there is a great system already to vote for your series of the week, maybe a rating system like jdorama has would be helpful. Or if nothing else, make the link to the SOTW more accessible.
Finally, amazon.com has a great feature that I am not so sure that could be implemented easily but... recommendations. As you looking at your new favorite series, somewhere on the page could be a list of likely recommendations for your next series. This could be by actor (so, if you like "Love Generation" then maybe "Hero" would be recommended because it also has Takuya Kimura and Takako Matsu.) Or by topic (so, then "Tokyo Love Story" might be recommended because of the office romance theme.) As I think about this, it seems more of a feature for a database format like WikiDrama than a forum format... So, I hope it OK to post this idea here. (^-^)v
OK, now that I've typed it, my ideas sound like a lot of work for somebody but IMHO it would be a great help for those looking for a new series to watch.
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iceberriJoined: 18 Jan 2004 Total posts: 1538 Location: New Jersey Gender: Female |
| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:14 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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^ I think Torei has some excellent ideas. I'm not sure how difficult this would be to implement code-wise Ruro, but if it can be easily implemented, I would like to see a more integrated rating system/database system. I know we have wikidrama, but it has a more general summary description about the drama than ratings. We did start with the review sections and discussion threads, but since it requires a person to set up a poll/rating system for every single drama series, it's not employed as often as I'd like to see. If it could be something that would be "automagically"  created everytime a torrent of every drama's episode 1 was uploaded (or an dropdown menu option to create such a feature on the upload torrent page?) and added maybe to the torrent stats page(?) that would definitely help promote the ratings system, I think.
Again, dunno how difficult this is to implement. I know you already have a lot on your plate as is, but you asked for it!  Just branching out from some of Torei's ideas, but as an inexperienced programmer, I really don't know very much. ^^;;;;_________________  |
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animetamaLocation: Brisbane Gender: Female |
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jianwaJoined: 13 Apr 2004 Total posts: 394 Location: NorCali Gender: Male |
| Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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For Top 10 Torrents requiring seeding
There should be a button to let you see more more than just the top 10 torrents need seeding. It should go up to top 50 torrents?
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because FSS is a closed board. If they were open, the size might be close to d-addicts or bigger.
Well thanks Ruroshin for the saving option, I am looking forward to it. At times I missed a show due to clutter of the torrents page. For somebody like me who only watches one type of drama this is really helpful.
