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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: help   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

first of all, thanks for all the detailed info given above! i have tried to follow the steps faithfully but up til now i'm still trying to figure out the proper configurations for opening the ports Sad currently my download speed is around 1kbps-8kbps (which is soooo painfully SLOW) and my upload speed is around 5kbps-14kbps... i'm using the official BT client v3.2.1

one question i have is this: i went to do the natcheck and failed the test which is bad i know Sad but i was just wondering - on the natcheck site, it stated that "The test will be run on the IP address: 202.156.xxx.xxx" is this ip add supposed to be the one that i'm using? cos when i went to check my ip add using winipconfig, the ip that showed was 192.168.xxx.xxx so i'm kinda confused here.

i'm badly in need of advice and would very much appreciate some help pls! thank you!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: help   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

cryxtalz wrote:
first of all, thanks for all the detailed info given above! i have tried to follow the steps faithfully but up til now i'm still trying to figure out the proper configurations for opening the ports Sad currently my download speed is around 1kbps-8kbps (which is soooo painfully SLOW) and my upload speed is around 5kbps-14kbps... i'm using the official BT client v3.2.1

one question i have is this: i went to do the natcheck and failed the test which is bad i know Sad but i was just wondering - on the natcheck site, it stated that "The test will be run on the IP address: 202.156.xxx.xxx" is this ip add supposed to be the one that i'm using? cos when i went to check my ip add using winipconfig, the ip that showed was 192.168.xxx.xxx so i'm kinda confused here.

i'm badly in need of advice and would very much appreciate some help pls! thank you!


This is why its a called a NAT check. NAT = Network Address Translation. 192.168.xxx.xxx is your internal address behind the router, 202.156.xxx.xxx is the external address that everybody else in the world sees you as. Your router is surpose to translate 202.156.xxx.xxx to your internal one and forward any port connection that you've setup to that address. Obviously its not working because you haven't passed the NAT check.

What type of router are you using? You need to find the manual or help file that came with your router and look up how to forward ports on your router (sometimes called redirection as well) and forward the ports 6881 to 6889.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: help   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

cryxtalz: when you purchased your router, the instructions inside must tell you how to get to your router configuration page. (usually, you would use your browser and go to ip address 192.168.x.x and enter your username/pwd - make sure you change the pwd).

once you are at the router config page, you can fwd your ports. i have a feeling you're not too comfortable w/ this, so find out exactly what make/model your router is, then go to: www.portforward.com they have step-by-step instructions on how to forward your ports.

hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:38 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

thanks Ruroshin and jholic for your replies! you're right, jholic, I'm not a very tech person and am not familiar at all with such stuff... i have found out that i'm using a 3Com 3CRWE554G72 cable/dsl router... i'm on win xp and using Starhub Maxonline 1500 (in Singapore) as my isp.

i've looked thru portforward and followed the instructions but towards the end, i did not know which dns servers to use. portforward said to contact my isp, which i did but the tech people said that their ip add and dns servers are automatically generated and they won't be able to provide me with any specifics Sad so now i'm stuck again... my win xp firewall is off and i've specified my modem's virtual server custom service ports to be 6881-6999 but bittornado is still showing a yellow light, which means i'm still behind a firewall??? according to portforward, setting up a static ip add is important to port forwarding but now i can't even set up a static ip add as told by my isp Sad

pls advise further! thank you!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 10:41 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

cryxtalz: i had some problems understanding a few terms when i first started, so don't worry about it.

1. you should search this forum for "singapore" and "china". there are several threads talking about how isp's there are starting to limit bw and cap ul/dl speeds.

2. in terms of static ip, it means that you should go into your router configuration page, and assign your computer a static ip. your router can still have a dynamic ip from the isp. this way, every time you turn your computer on, your router will assign that computer the same INTERNAL ip address, and will know exactly which ip address to forward data to. meanwhile, the router itself is assigned a dynamic ip address from your isp (and it is THIS ip address that the world sees).

i hope that clears things up. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2004 6:32 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Cryxtalz: On my loooooong post there is a section that deals with setting up a PC to use a static IP nr. So look it up for that. Seconds your router should have an option to use DHCP(Sometimes also called Automatic) to obtain both the IP number and DNS numbers from your ISP. Most likely this is allready set correctly cause otherwise you wouldn't be able to connect to the internet at all.
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hi, i am a mac os x user, so the window guide confused me a lot. i have few questions and if someone can answer them i will appreciate it.

1. does mac os x use firewall? i don't know if i'm behind firewall or now since mac is safer than windows.
2. how can i do the same thing the web page specified with mac computer? does anyone know this?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:39 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

seira wrote:
1. does mac os x use firewall? i don't know if i'm behind firewall or now since mac is safer than windows.


A) you're not unless you install one and B) well thats not quite true. Mac OS X or 10 is however not quite Mac anymore though. It's Unix based and thereby closer to Linux than Mac once was. Or so I have received my tech manuals updated anyway. Not that I care much for either Mac nor Unix myself.

Now depending on how close to Linux/Unix it came, you could check out a firewall thats called Smoothwall. I hear thats a really good one and for the PC users using Zonealarm, when you do a security scan of your PC ZA will tell the world it's smoothwall and not ZA.

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2. how can i do the same thing the web page specified with mac computer? does anyone know this?


Check out the online references given by many BT coders, both in the guides provided by ruroshin here and the ones available at places such as Sourceforge.net

Since BT is open source, that should be a good place to look for details about how things work as well.

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cryxtalz wrote:
thanks Ruroshin and jholic for your replies! you're right, jholic, I'm not a very tech person and am not familiar at all with such stuff... i have found out that i'm using a 3Com 3CRWE554G72 cable/dsl router...


Double check that you have HTML input to your router through your locak NAT range.
That is, you can log in to your router by going to 192.168.0.1 or whatever your routers internal IP is.

Specify in the PortForward a range or a specific port 6881 as you have.

Make sure your local machines firewall is open for the same port and very importantly allows your bittorrent access both as server and client.

If you use Zonealarm, you could do this by allowing your client access in Programs settings for all trusted as client and server and for internet access as client to any IP.

Then specify your router IP as trusted IP.
I did this with Azureus and it works fine but the other hinch here is, you're on XP.
I cannot run Azureus as reliable as on W2K from my XP box. I believe it has to do with the NAT (internal network management) and how XP handles this compared to W2K.

cryxtalz wrote:
know which dns servers to use. portforward said to contact my isp, which i did but the tech people said that their ip add and dns servers are automatically generated and they won't be able to provide me with any specifics


JUNK... the ISP you are using doesn't want to release the info because they a) dont want unjustified routing through recursive dns lookups from non users, and b) theire lazy.

Go for a looksee at www.open-rsc.org and pull a IP number from those guys to use instead. They provide so-called open root DNS servers for free and will allow you to route from anywhere.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I did the port forwarding for 6881-6889. However, I notice no change in dl/ul speeds and it failed the Nat Check. What am I doing wrong? I am using a microsoft wireless router with firewall with a dsl connection.

My download and upload speed never is more than 1-5 kb/s unless I'm at a public wifi station which then can go up to 30 kb/s (at most). But even at the high speed, it often just stops and slows down to 1 kb/s or 0. I never have a green light - always yellow (even at the public wifi stations). Can someone clue me in?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:10 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

sukyong: nowadays, port range for bt is 6881 to six-nine-nine-nine (6999). which client are you using? in bittornado, if you click on prefs, you will notice that the range (6881-6999) is randomized. therefore, the torrent may have used something like 6993 and would not have been forwarded.

do you have any firewalls installed?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:26 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

jholic wrote:
sukyong: nowadays, port range for bt is 6881 to six-nine-nine-nine (6999). which client are you using? in bittornado, if you click on prefs, you will notice that the range (6881-6999) is randomized. therefore, the torrent may have used something like 6993 and would not have been forwarded.

do you have any firewalls installed?


I saw that when using bittornado, I wonder why they want to randomized it?? Anyway, either change your setting in Bittornado down to 6881-6889 and turn off randomizing or increase your port range forwarding in your router.

If you're using a firewall as well make sure those same ports are open.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:48 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ruroshin wrote:
jholic wrote:
sukyong: nowadays, port range for bt is 6881 to six-nine-nine-nine (6999). which client are you using? in bittornado, if you click on prefs, you will notice that the range (6881-6999) is randomized. therefore, the torrent may have used something like 6993 and would not have been forwarded.

do you have any firewalls installed?


I saw that when using bittornado, I wonder why they want to randomized it?? Anyway, either change your setting in Bittornado down to 6881-6889 and turn off randomizing or increase your port range forwarding in your router.

If you're using a firewall as well make sure those same ports are open.


Thanks guys! I am using bittornado so I changed the preference on it to only use 6881-6889 and not to randomize. I do have a firewall so I added those ports to the "exception" list...right now I'm not seeing a dramatic change but maybe it takes time to see any real difference? I'll let it run and will report back later.

Thanks again!
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I don't think I understand this whole port thing. I have 3 bittornado downloads going. I used the hash id on each one and tested on the nat check to see if it passed. Only 1 passed on port 6885 and the other 2 had "most likely configured properly but failed to find the correct hash id" results on 6885.

I thought each download was suppose to use a different port so why are all 3 on 6885? Is this why only the download that "passed" has the higher speed than the other 2?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 1:07 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

sukyong wrote:
I don't think I understand this whole port thing. I have 3 bittornado downloads going. I used the hash id on each one and tested on the nat check to see if it passed. Only 1 passed on port 6885 and the other 2 had "most likely configured properly but failed to find the correct hash id" results on 6885.

I thought each download was suppose to use a different port so why are all 3 on 6885? Is this why only the download that "passed" has the higher speed than the other 2?


did you put in a different port number each time you tried that check? Make sure the correct port number and the correct hash id is entered when using the nat check.
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