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minimalistix Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Total posts: 40 Gender: Unknown |
 Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:19 am Post subject: [Discussion] London Hearts Variety Show Summaries & Syno Post Rating: 0 |
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Firstly I am not Japanese and my ability to understand it is not brilliant so there may be some mistakes and some parts i cannot translate. If you would like me to correct something please messeage me and i will. If you just wish to complain about something feel free to, but i don't see that there is any point.
Secondly this is only a summary, not word for word translations so somethings will be left out if they are not really that important or are too hard for me to translate.
Lastly there will be no set times when i will post other summaries. I will post them whenever i get to them.
???= I dont know
(b) = bad reason
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Summaries Link
2005.05.17
2005.05.31
2005.06.14
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London Hearts can be found on our d-addicts' tracker by following this link:
http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/torrents.php?search=london&type=&sort=
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(added by jholic:)
any softsubs for london hearts' episodes can be found here:
http://www.d-addicts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15777
Last edited by minimalistix on Wed May 25, 2005 7:24 am; edited 1 time in total
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minimalistixJoined: 23 Jun 2004 Total posts: 40 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 7:24 am Post subject: London Hearts 2005.5.17 Post Rating: 0 |
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London Hearts 2005.5.17
Before they begin Sugimoto Aya asks what counts as cheating and Atsushi says holding hands while walking together.
Ozawa Maju's List
10 - Herself - ???
9 - Aoki Sayaka - She doesn't have time to cheat
Aoki says that she does imagine it. Twice with Astushi. Rinka asks if her fantasies include sex. Aoki says that some people she does. Atsushi asks who she doesn't imagine sex with. She says for some reason she can't imagine it with Kimura Takuya. Mistuura says that in her fantasies she an Kimura Takuya do something which is bleeped out. Atsushi tells her to apologize to Kimura Takuya because it is so bad.
8 - Sugimoto Aya - They smell the same (which means just means they are similar)
7 - Iijima Ai - Money is the trunk(root) of her desire.
A guy asked her between money and him which would she choose. She said "money of course".
Atsushi asks if she has ever cheated and she says never (with a smile). She then says that if holding hands counts then Atsushi is always cheating. He says he isn't and that at moment he is very serious. Yamaguchi Moe asks if he has a girlfriend. He replies "No response" which causes an uproar. Iijima says that Ryou is going to cheat too. Atsushi says Ryou wouldn't cheat... within his area. Mitsuura says that he used to say bad things about his wife. Ryou says that he really loves her. Atsushi says to properly declare his love. Ryou says it to the camera but Atsushi says not to her but to him.
6 - Kokusho Sayuri - Are you interested in men... still? (meaning she is getting old)
Iijima says she gets more popular with old age. Kokusho says that without Sugita everyone picks on her age. Atsushi says thats because she is the oldest one there. She replies "Shut up"
5 - Yingling - she can't leave guys alone
Rinka interrupts and says its wrong. Atsushi asks whats wrong. She says she definitely thinks she(herself) belongs in 8-10. Atushi thought she had a problem with Yinglings place. Rinka says she was being annoying again wasn't she.
4 - Kumada Yoko - she's shiny/glittery
3 - Yamaguchi Moe - she doesn't take things serious and doesn't realise she's cheating
2 - Mitsuura Yasuko - ???
1 - Rinka - Its her vocation
Surveyed List
10 - Mitsuura Yasuko -
- Still hasn't had a real love relationship, if she managed to get one she would never cheat on him
- She can barely attract one guy let alone someone else to cheat on them with
The conversation that follows mostly talks about Atsushi being nice to the girls outside of the show. Aoki reveals that he offers to cheer her up if she has problems. When Iijima was not feeling well he asked if there was something he could bring her, even offering to make Okayu (rice gruel/porridge) and bring it for her. She replied to his message "okay, make it and bring it over" because she wanted to test it. He replied that he was currently drinking with friends and even though it would be late he would definitely call her back.
9 - Kokushou Sayuri
- ???
- even if she felt like cheating, she would stop herself
8 - Rinka
- shes very girly
- she cant have sex with someone she didnt love
- she used to cheat a lot, but it's out of her system and now she's more reserved
7 - Aoki Sayaka
- she is surprisingly pure of heart
- She already has a boyfriend
- ???
6 - Ozawa maju
- she would stalk her boyfriend, not interested in other people
- She enjoys the thrill of cheating (b)
- She has a cheating aura about her (b)
5 - Iijima Ai
- she clearly differentiates friends from boyfriend
- She doesn't feel secure without a lot of men (b)
- She would cheat but they would be one night stands and she'd never see them again (b)
4 - YingLing
- her body is too much for one man to handle (b)
- A boyfriend in Japan, but cheat with guys in Taiwan (b)
Iijima says she thinks Kumada Yoko is number 1 saying she looks very frivolous. Kumada denies it saying even when shes off somewhere for a shoot she turns off her phone. Atsushi tries to understand the logic behind her doing so, saying when she is away she turns off her phone so that she can't get caught cheating. Rinka says that if she turns off her phone how does her boyfriend contact her? Kumada says her boyfriends doesn't really call often...
3 - Kumada Yoko
- She would cheat without a second thought
- her messages would be very "suggestive" with lots of heart marks
- Cheating face
2 - Yamaguchi Moe
- She doesn't know how to feel guilt
- After shes cheated she will say "oh! by the way i have a boyfriend"
- she will think "I am not being bad" while she cheats
1 - Sugimoto Aya
- She wants to tame a lot of men
- she is always looking for someone who is more intense than the one she is with
She says that theres totally no mistake about that. Sugimoto then gives her tips on men she loves. Mitsuura doesnt get it, but Sugimoto's Erotic little sisters are totally absorbed and taking note.
- ???
Moe then says if you want to know more about Sugimoto's thoughts you should read her book "immoral".
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jholicJoined: 03 Feb 2004 Total posts: 6192 Location: missin' hawaii Gender: Male |
| Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:36 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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minimalistix: i also thank you. it's great to know that other folks share the love of 'london hearts'!!_________________ Use THUMBS UP/DOWN buttons to KEEP or DELETE posts.
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moonsiteJoined: 25 Apr 2005 Total posts: 41 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:01 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| I've been wondering, is London Heart a drama or just a TV show? I browse the WIKI and stuff, but couldn't find the answer.
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minimalistixJoined: 23 Jun 2004 Total posts: 40 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 4:24 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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London hearts is a tv show.
It is one of the better variety shows i have seen.
Lately the have been doing a lot of the ranking segments because its so popular in japan but the used to do a lot of relationship stuff like Triangle, Blackmail and Idol Trap which are all trying to see if a guy will cheat on his girlfriend (sometimes the other way round). They usually do. You feel sorry for the girl but its funny to see what the guys will say and do to cheat and to apologize at the end when they are caught out.
At the moment I am only planning to summarise the ranking segments as they are conversation heavy and i really like them.
I will post some of them from 2004 soon including the ones with Atsushi's exgirlfriend in the panel.
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jholicJoined: 03 Feb 2004 Total posts: 6192 Location: missin' hawaii Gender: Male |
| Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:29 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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moonsite: a variety show in japan is similar to a night time talkshow here in the u.s. london hearts is the name of a comedy duo that play different pranks and stunts on unwitting people.
| minimalistix wrote: | | I will post some of them from 2004 soon including the ones with Atsushi's exgirlfriend in the panel. |
looking forward to it, minimalistix.
too bad you can't use a simple subtitle creator and create a softsub file. obviously translating all the dialogue would be a lot of work, so i don't think that's too feasible for you. instead, if you add timing to what you have been providing us, it would let us know what time (in the show) that situation occurs. i may be mistaken, but i believe sub creators will set the time, and you just have to type in what you have been typing for us._________________ Use THUMBS UP/DOWN buttons to KEEP or DELETE posts.
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minimalistixJoined: 23 Jun 2004 Total posts: 40 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I guess i can add timestamps to my summaries and if someone wishes to convert that into softsubs they are welcome to. Biggest problem is there will be fairly large gaps at places where i don't know what they are saying and very short lines during conversations where i only get the jist of what they are saying.
At the moment i am busy with other things so i wont be posting another summary for a while.
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moonsiteJoined: 25 Apr 2005 Total posts: 41 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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| Thank for clarifying it for me. I might give it a try. I have not seen any Japanese show besides the MXC on Spike TV. I have seen some very funny Taiwanese shows though.
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RuroshinJoined: 05 Dec 2003 Total posts: 2747 Gender: Male |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:08 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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I'll to keep all the summaries in one topic so its easier to reference.
London Hearts 2005-05-31
| tadashi wrote: | Here's a very rough translation of the ranking segment lists from the page Ruroshin linked to, apologies for possible mistakes and errors in spelling, please feel free to make additions and corrections(perhaps Himasaram or Minimalistix can help us out). Things I'm unsure of or don't understand will be marked by ???
Theme: 100 foreign businessmen were asked which of the women they would want as their girlfriend.
Aoki Sayaka's ranking list:
1. Kokushyou Sayuri - Because she's a japanese beauty, the foreigners won't care about her age.
2.Mistuura Yasuko - She's intelligent, ???
3.Aoki Sayaka - Aoki thinks that foreigners read the Aera English series.
4.Yasu Megumi - There's a popularity around her.
5.Aota Noriko - Her appearance will be well recieved by foreign men
6.Yamaguchi Moe - Beacause she speaks slowly they will think she's KIMOI(???)
7.Rinka - Foreigners are already familiar with the look of her face
8.Ijima Ai - She's scary
9.Obayashi Motoko - She has a "mother"-image
10.Kumada Youko - They would want to play around with her but she's not the "type" they would want as a girlfriend
The ranking list of 100 foreign businessmen:
1.Rinka - I like her eyes, ???(something about her nose and burning feelings), Sweet and Cute, I want to see the fairy.
2.Obayashi Motoko - I would like to enjoy playing sports together with her, Feels innocent/pure, I want to see the rabbit.
3.Ijima Ai - Sexy lady, When walking with her you would be the center of attention, Feels honest/faithful.
4.Kumada Youko - Her eyes are mysterious, Her "Nice body" is equal that of american actresses, Baby baby baby.
5.Yasu Megumi - I like her mouth, She seems like a good listener, ???(something about getting bored of her company)
6.Kokushyou Sayuri - The traditional japanese feeling is good, I would like to take her to a high class resturant in NY, she seems deceitful.
7.Aota Noriko - ???(something about her being unfaithful), Not my "type", Don't like her smile.
8.Aoki Sayaka - No thank you, ???(men would like to see her face)
9.Yamaguchi Moe - Not sexy, She seems more like someone you raise a child with than a girlfriend.
!0.Mitsuura Yasuko - The face of an aunt, Doesn't raise any feelings, "Ganbatte kudasai"/Hang in there. |
| TeQnoman wrote: | Seating arrangements:
From Top left to top right:
Aoki Sayaka
Mitsuura Yasuko
Yamaguchi Moe
Kumada Youko
Yasu Megumi
From Bottom left to bottom right:
Rinka
Iijima Ai
Kokushou Sayuri
Aota Noriko
Oobayashi Motoko
Hope this helps. |
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awrittensinJoined: 03 Feb 2005 Total posts: 379 Age: 24 Gender: Female |
| Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:10 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Okay, let me make some corrections to the above summary that Ruroshin copied and pasted.
| Quote: | 6.Yamaguchi Moe - Beacause she speaks slowly they will think she's KIMOI(???)
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Aoki gave the reason that foreigners usually talk pretty quickly, and if they try to talk to someone like Moe, who always talks really slow, they wouldn't like it very much.
| Quote: | | 1.Rinka - I like her eyes, ???(something about her nose and burning feelings), Sweet and Cute, I want to see the fairy. |
Hee, I was wondering why this seemed strange to me, but whoever originally posted this got confused on Japanese grammar. It's not "I want to see the fairy" but "She resembles a fairy" or "She looks like a fairy." To help people out who are learning Japanese, I'll explain the mistake. The sentence "yousei ga mitai" means "I want to see a fairy." but "rinka wa yousei mitai" means "Rinka looks like a fairy." Even though the two words are both "mitai" they're not the SAME word. "Mitai" as in "Want to see" will usually be written with kanji, (見たい） whereas "mitai" as in "resemble" will always be written in kana.
Also, they weren't talking about her nose, the quote was "takane no hana tte, kanji de moeru." "Takane no hana" (高嶺の花） is a phrase which means "unattainable," and what the guy is probably trying to say is that Rinka is super hot because she's unattainable and that really gets him going. The word for nose is also "hana," but the kanji for that is this: 鼻 vs the word for flower, which is "hana" but the kanji for it is this: 花. The two words are also pronounced differently with different pitch accents, but one thing at a time, right?
| Quote: | | 2.Obayashi Motoko - I would like to enjoy playing sports together with her, Feels innocent/pure, I want to see the rabbit. |
Again, it's "She resembles a rabbit."
| Quote: | | 5.Yasu Megumi - I like her mouth, She seems like a good listener, ???(something about getting bored of her company) |
The last reason is "I think I'd get tired of her because a relationship with her would be too normal" and the other girls said "What do you mean by that?" and Atsushi said, "Like, not fun." and Ryou "Too obvious. Ha, it seems like everyone else can see that, too!" when everyone was nodding in agreement. Then Mitsuura said "It probably also means that any plans that Yasu would make would be really boring."
| Quote: | | 7.Aota Noriko - ???(something about her being unfaithful), Not my "type", Don't like her smile. |
Yeah, the first reason is "It seems like she would always be cheating on me."
| Quote: | | 8.Aoki Sayaka - No thank you, ???(men would like to see her face) |
That same mistake again... the second reason is "Because she has a masculine face" or "Her face looks like a man's." It's that same thing with "mitai" again.
At the end of the episode, a great thing happened to Mitsuura, though! There was one person who answered the survey, an American named Patrick, who said he couldn't think of anyone else to put at #1 besides Mitsuura, that he really liked her and wanted to go out with her! Atsushi gave Mitsuura Patrick's contact information, and later after the show in her dressing room, she called him and said "Hi, this is Yasuko. Thank you very much. Would you like to date with me?"  So cute! So maybe there will be a follow-up episode with Mitsuura and Patrick! 
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minimalistixJoined: 23 Jun 2004 Total posts: 40 Gender: Unknown |
| Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:21 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0 |
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Oh well since that's all pretty much taken care of i can leave it as it is, unless someone wants me to summarise some of the reactions.
himasaram and awrittensin's japanese seems to be a lot better than mine as well so their input is most appreciated and helpful.
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