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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:03 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Can I make a suggestion? Disable new accounts for now, until the server performance issues have come back to normal? The combination of having to train dozens of newbies, along with the sluggishness of the server - it really doesn't benefit anyone or the cause.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Thanks to Ruroshin the Wiki is running fine now. cheers

Btw, about nine images with unicode letters in their filename will not show up properly. I will re-upload them. If you see other things in the wiki that are broken or behave strangely, then please report here. Thanks.
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edit: FYI, you can rename (move) uploaded files now.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I have a suggestion about "Title/Also known as" part.
Is it possible to add, lets say under a Japanese drama what the Chinese/Korean title is?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

AFAIK, we (regular editors) have turned that idea down long ago. We list only the official title (incl. romanizations/transcriptions) and one or more popular, but often inofficial, english translations/AKAs.

An exception would be co-productions, for example and Japanese/Korean co-production with an official Japanese title and an official Korean title. There seem to be only very few co-productions. Another exception I know are Korean historical dramas, which often have the titles in Hangul and Hanja.

Inofficial translations in other languages, unrelated to the drama, would become endless. We had already people trying to add Vietnamese or Filippino(?) translations. What would be next? Perhaps Russian and Arabic translations? We don't want that. DramaWiki is for English readers. So the benefit of having other foreign titles is none.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I've added the Confirm Account extension to the wiki so now anybody can request to create an account via a form on the wiki, you enter a bit of information about yourself and what you're planning to edit etc. Then it will go into a queue to be either accepted or rejected by the wiki admins.

Wiki Administrators can you please check that you can see the Confirm account requests link under Users and rights on http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Special:SpecialPages
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I can't see it Ruroshin. I have eight different options but not that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:07 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ruroshin - you the man! Forget anything my imaginary friend ever said.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I have cusomized the "request account formular" a little to make clear what kind of information we want from new users. The "Terms of Service" now links to a page that provides some information about DramaWiki is and what we require from our users.

We don't want any private information from our users, we just want to confirm that you want to contribute to DramaWiki as an editor. In the "real name" field it is ok to enter just your forename or a nickname. It is only used by the software to address you in the e-mails.

I will not approve any new users who cannot express their intentions to improve DramaWiki on one or two English sentences.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

The other thing I'm seeing a lot of out of the new accounts is a constant need to change the imagery - even perfectly good imagery is being replaced with crap. It seems that the imagery are more important for these people than the text, and most of the imagery changes lean towards the editor wanting to change the image every time the artist changes his hair style. I mean, give me a break - they're Eastern Asians! They really don't age that quickly.

http://wiki.d-addicts.com/DramaWiki:Style_guide

The guidelines in that link is very clear - DramaWiki is not a fan site. If you're a huge fan of a particular artist, you may not be the most objective candidate to be editing DramaWiki. We're looking for editors who will help out DramaWiki as a WHOLE, and not focus on just a handful of artists.

It also occurs to me that some of the new editors also edit Crunchyroll's wiki. The rules at DramaWiki are much more restrictive than Crunchyroll. Shinji @ Crunchyroll could care less about what you do to his wiki - while we at DramaWiki do care about our articles.

So please! Read the style guide and see what you'd be getting yourself into before signing up.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

ah, there is a way to fix this upload issue.
With the new usergroup scheme you can limit certain privileges (e.g. upload) of new accounts.

So, the privilege to upload files can be limited to users who have reached "autoconfirm" status.

Users reach that status after certains days and after making a certain number of contributions.

What period and edit count would you suggest? 1 day and 10 edits? more? much more?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:32 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

MoerkJ wrote:
ah, there is a way to fix this upload issue.
With the new usergroup scheme you can limit certain privileges (e.g. upload) of new accounts.

So, the privilege to upload files can be limited to users who have reached "autoconfirm" status.

Users reach that status after certains days and after making a certain number of contributions.

What period and edit count would you suggest? 1 day and 10 edits? more? much more?

I'm liking this new version of MediaWiki more and more with each passing day.

I ilke the idea of a combination of # days and # of edits. Three days and 10 edits would be a good start. It would deter those who want an account just to change an image. Three days would force them to wait it out. In the meantime, the quality of their 10 edits will allow the admins to determine if they're serious about DramaWiki. One or two days would be too little I think.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:43 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

gryzze wrote:
I can't see it Ruroshin. I have eight different options but not that one.


You should get it now. I assigned the permission to the wrong group Tongue
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I don't nesssary want to become an editor for Dramawiki but I would like to
be able to leave info that is missing in wiki.
Would it be possible to make a sticky tread for us that see missing info but don't
want to get an account since our edits would be few and far apart.

To pm an admin feels wrong since the one I may pm may be up to their neck with
a lot of other things

And when the admin that has time to add info from the relevant post, it could be deleted
so that the sticky tread dont amount to hundreds of pages or several admins log in
on wiki to make the same edit.
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I would like to add info about the actor Lee Jae Yong
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Lee_Jae_Yong

He played in Hello My Teacher
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Hello_My_Teacher
as Na Bo Ri's father who became a monk

and in Hot Blood
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Hot_Blood
as Song Man Deok - Legendary car salesmn
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:35 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Is there a maintenance or problem with DramaWiki?
It's been loading very slow today.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I noticed that too. It definitely wasn't the server that lagged so much. It must have been the connection to our webhoster, I guess.

It looks like the wiki server is much faster now.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Yes, it is, thank you^^
I was wondering why it lagged so much. I thought maybe it was my connection's fault.

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ethlenn wrote:
Yes, it is, thank you^^
I was wondering why it lagged so much. I thought maybe it was my connection's fault.


It's not my fault. I just got back. I swear.. I leave..for a bit...change my OS to Win 7 my external crashes..I cry...sing a sad R&B song come back..and look at this...*tsk* *tsk*
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As you see, singing R&B songs only makes things worse... Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 1:35 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Ethlenn wrote:
As you see, singing R&B songs only makes things worse... Twisted Evil


Nooope! Must have been Lee Jun Ki going to the Korean Army.
Women are crying and men are hoping for a Brokeback Mountain moment.
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Hmm, if a drama is not on the list here does it mean I can upload it?
Because some dramas have the sign of YE entertainment, but are not on the list.

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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

I am not entirely sure, that I am writing in the correct topic...

I would like to create a scraper for XBMC, that looks up information of dramas from DramaWiki. And I thought I would ask permission first...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

And I have a one question, how long are we supposed to wait when the account will be created on DW?
Because I'm waiting almost 2 weeks..

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:44 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Sorry, Ethlenn. Usually it doesn't take that long. I haven't had time to check DW for the last days. sweating I just noticed about 30 pending account requests of users who still haven't confirmed their email addresses yet. Just PM me your DW account name (or email address) and I'll check out if there went something wrong.

@all:
Please note that we only approve DramaWiki account requests of users who have confirmed their email address and expressed their wish to become an DramaWiki contributor in at least one or two proper English sentences (in their biography text). You don't have to reveal any personal (real life) data in your application bio.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 28, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Thank you for solving this, MoerkJ Big Smile

I know we are all busy here.

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Hello,

I was curious why some dramas were missing from the wiki, examples off the top of my head are Ancient Dogoo girls, and Atsui zo. I would love to see a cast list, but I can't read from the Japanese sites yet. Is it just because no one has added them, or another reason?

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Hello all
What happened?
Managed to get in d-addicts site, but everytime I click Drama Wiki I get redirected to a drug addict site!!!
the following caption:- This domain name expired on Oct 27 2010 03:48PM
Click here to renew it.
Hope that the wiki sector isn't hacked...the other sectors are OK.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

As I mention on the Tech Support section, the d-addicts.com domain had expired yesterday and the domain registrar is trying to make money of the expired domain with a placeholder. Guess the ads company they use think Drug Addicts was the original propose of the site.

Anyway, I have no way of contacting the admin of the site. But he should figure out that he needs to renew the domain when he try to connect the site.

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Maybe this isnt the right place to write this but on this site http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Fayray its stated that Fayray sang the themsong hikaru for the drama: http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Waraeru_Koi_wa_Shitakunai Actually the song is called hikari (光) with an "I" not an "U" at the end.

EDIT: Sorry, looks like both is right Roll Eyes
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I don't get why the wiki has to be so closed. My favorite actress' entry is very incomplete (as are many others), and I don't see anyone fixing it. If I wanted to do it I'd have to send an application. Forget it.

If you're going to run the wiki by yourselves, then I expect you to keep it updated. But you're not able to do that, so why not let people just register?
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All we want is one or two sentences in english language where you express your wish to contribute... nothing more. We don't want any private information or "curriculum vitae". This is only to prevent the creation bogus accounts or to keep vandals and spammers away.

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HI! Newbie here. I don't know if this is the right place to post these questions/requests, but I will ask/request anyway.

1. Where do I send a request to update JO HYUN JAE''s dramawiki account?

He is currently working on the Chinese drama 胭脂霸王 (Official English title: KING ROUGE; Literal Translation: ROUGE OVERLORD/ROUGE HEGEMON).

The drama will air on HSTV in February 2012.

2. Since 胭脂霸王 (Official English title: KING ROUGE; Literal Translation: ROUGE OVERLORD/ROUGE HEGEMON) is already listed in HSTV's drama lineup for 2012
can I request someone to update the list of upcoming Chinese dramas to include this drama?

3. Can I also request that a dramawiki account be created for this drama?

For more details here is the link to the drama's thread on soompi: http://www.soompi.com/forums/topic/370059-mainland-china-drama-2012-king-rougerouge-overlordrouge-hegemon-胭脂霸王/

4. Is it possible to include this info on the 49 Days dramawiki account?

Jo Hyun Jae contributed a song in the drama's OST. Title of the song is “단 하루를 살아도” (Even If I Live Just One Day).

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:52 am    Post subject: I want to fix the Korean Drama sections in the wiki.   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Like the title says, I want to fix the sections.

Here's the basic idea:

-Names by default will be in the Revised Romanization of Korean to show support and respect to the language and to the writing system which is derived from Chinese characters (Hanja) and known as Hangeul. (It's a big deal.) This won't affect some actors who have taken different romanizations to at first prevent confusion. For example, the "Jung Woo-sung" page will remain as the "Jung Woo-sung" page and it will not be transliterated to "Jeong U-seong" as RR states.

There will instead be a note stating that this name is romanized by RR as it is. For example, it will say "Name: 정우성 (RR: Jeong U-seong)."

For this, let's have some documentation and let's discuss it if it is too ambiguous.

Other names such as characters will be in RR to prevent confusion and to support the Korean language. For example, Jeong's character in "Athena: Goddess of War" is "Yi Jeong-u" but it states Lee Jung Woo.

If a character is shown with a different kind of romanization, it will be added to the side. I believe Seo Yu-gyeong in "Pasta" had her name written "Seo You-gyeong" or something similar. This would then go to the side like "Gong Hyo-jin as Seo Yu-gyeong (alt. Seo You-gyeong)".

The name for Han Seo-u in "Twinkle Twinkle" also would be "Han Seo-u (alt. Seo-u Lee)".

This brings me to the next topic regarding names in dramas. The default will be the names officially given by the companies which produce the dramas unless they greatly differ to the point in which most viewers wouldn't be able to recognize them. Therefore, "Twinkle Twinkle" becomes the title until DVD changes because it is a line included in the original title. Alternate titles from other countries are welcome in the "Also Known As" section.


- There are some issues with reviews.

Personal reviews on wiki pages are bad etiquette. Add a link to a personal review at the bottom of the page!

Wiki pages aren't for personal bias. They help other people remember or understand information faster than searching other places.

Poorly written reviews from other sites also are bad. If you can do better, please write one that has no bias yourself.

- If you are uncertain about Revised Romanization, you can send me a message.

- Does anyone have any suggestions? Please help and spread the word. Let's unify these pages.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:26 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

At first, you're welcome to contribute as a DramaWiki editor. You can request an account if you don't have one. See the DramaWiki discussion thread for more details.


Regarding the romanization of Korean names...
As the DramaWiki guideline say the name profile format for Korean artist pages is:

"Name: <hangul> / <simple> (<revised>)"

i.e. it would be "Name: 정우성 / Jung Woo Sung (Jeong U Seong)" in your case

What I called here "<simple>" is of course debatable, because it is something we made up ourselves. See page DramaWiki:Korean Personal Names Romanization Preferences for details. We had a few discussions about romanization here in the forum and also in DramaWiki. I don't think there is a need for a big change. Also I know that some pages don't exactly follow the name formatting scheme and need to be fixed.


Regarding drama names... I guess this is difficult issue. AFAIK for many dramas exist no official English title because the shows are/were usually produced for the Korean market only. Many English titles are just inofficial translations or translations by 3rd parties. So, many dramas have different alternative titles. I tried to add the source for the titles on a few pages if known (i.e. KBS Global, KBFD-TV, YesAsia, etc.). See My Rosy Life for example. I guess, this could be improved on many pages.


Last one the reviews. These are a legacy thing. They should be either removed or perhaps moved to a linked subpage. In 2005 the reviews were actually the main reason to start the wiki. We had a small reviewer team and we transferred the reviews from the forum to the wiki. The whole idea died after about 15-20 reviews, or so. The original reviews still exist in the forum and could be linked to. We don't need them in DramaWiki anymore as it contradicts the NPOV idea.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:06 am    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

Thank you for the response.

I will take a look at the guidelines to see what went wrong and to be within bounds. I think I'll start an account next week when I'm not busy.

The "simple" isn't quite the "simple" so would what would we call it to make it under their chosen romanization? Could it be "chosen" because people think their own romanization is what goes there? Revised actually goes A B-c while most people think it's A B C.

Regarding drama names, for this I think RR would be perfect. Under regular Korean, they do not change and RR will reflect it. If an alternate name is used in there like "[First name] Lee", then we can add that. I think this would be great if it is incorporated as part of the format. It will be easier to follow this than a "Hyunsu" which could be spoken as "휸수" or "현수" to someone who wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

Yes, the names get messy, but my suggestion is that we take the names given to us and not personal opinion. We are given "Twinkle Twinkle" for "반짝반짝 빛나는" to reflect "반짝반짝" in the title from MBC. I have not seen a "Sparkling" one. Perhaps we can have a thread dedicated to submitting alternative titles?

Can the reviews be gathered into a thread of some sort which also is accessible by wiki links?

Thanks again for the response.
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What I called simple romanization here is more or less what existed before South Korea introduced the revised romanization in 2000. The old (simple) romanization was commonly used outside Korea and I call it "simple" (or simplified) for technical reasons because it doesn't use special letters (breves and aphostrophes). In fact it may be confusing because it is more pronounciation oriented and it is not suitable for "backwards" transcription. I'm not a language expert. You can read more on Wikipedia.

For drama titles I'd prefer RR for transcriptions. Maybe for all text, except for names. For names I'd list both transcriptions. Unfortunately, official(!) name transcription can be RR or "simplified" or even a mix of both. There exist no real rules which is very unsatisfyingly IMHO. For artist page titles we usually chose the romanization that is used on the official artist homepages, if existant, or just what is most commonly used (on the internet). If there is any doubt, then using the RR for an artist page is also fine.

Now some technical notes on wikis, specifically MediaWiki wikis...

In a wiki it is easy to change the page titles using the move feature. This way a page can have more than one title (=the displayed title). Page titles may change for several reasons. Artists may switch from real name to stage names and vice versa. Drama titles may change during the production process and so on. The only important thing is that the different names are listed and explained properly on each page.

If you find that a certain page title is incorrect or uncommon then you can always discuss this on the article's associated discussion page (talk page). For example, if you think that "Sparkling" should not be the page title for the drama "반짝반짝 빛나는" ("Banjjak Banjjak Bitnaneun") then you can always discuss it on its talk page your just rename it as you wish.

regarding the reviews...
I just noticed that at least some reviews were removed from the forum. So we'll probably keep them on separate wiki pages like we did for Seikei Bijin. The separate subpages will be put into a review category for easy accessing. Until then you can use the Google search inside DramaWiki to find them.
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MoerkJ wrote:
What I called simple romanization here is more or less what existed before South Korea introduced the revised romanization in 2000. The old (simple) romanization was commonly used outside Korea and I call it "simple" (or simplified) for technical reasons because it doesn't use special letters (breves and aphostrophes). In fact it may be confusing because it is more pronounciation oriented and it is not suitable for "backwards" transcription. I'm not a language expert. You can read more on Wikipedia.

For drama titles I'd prefer RR for transcriptions. Maybe for all text, except for names. For names I'd list both transcriptions. Unfortunately, official(!) name transcription can be RR or "simplified" or even a mix of both. There exist no real rules which is very unsatisfyingly IMHO. For artist page titles we usually chose the romanization that is used on the official artist homepages, if existant, or just what is most commonly used (on the internet). If there is any doubt, then using the RR for an artist page is also fine.

Now some technical notes on wikis, specifically MediaWiki wikis...

In a wiki it is easy to change the page titles using the move feature. This way a page can have more than one title (=the displayed title). Page titles may change for several reasons. Artists may switch from real name to stage names and vice versa. Drama titles may change during the production process and so on. The only important thing is that the different names are listed and explained properly on each page.

If you find that a certain page title is incorrect or uncommon then you can always discuss this on the article's associated discussion page (talk page). For example, if you think that "Sparkling" should not be the page title for the drama "반짝반짝 빛나는" ("Banjjak Banjjak Bitnaneun") then you can always discuss it on its talk page your just rename it as you wish.

regarding the reviews...
I just noticed that at least some reviews were removed from the forum. So we'll probably keep them on separate wiki pages like we did for Seikei Bijin. The separate subpages will be put into a review category for easy accessing. Until then you can use the Google search inside DramaWiki to find them.


Oh, you may be referring to the Yale Romanization. It also has some problems because it is much more difficult to learn how to say those. I didn't study it, but I see that "eo" from RR is transcribed as "e" and "e" is "ey" so that would confuse many since the Revised is written closest to the pronunciation. What is commonly used is a combination of both, but this of course, is at the user's discretion so it causes many different romanizations which do not all agree.

I totally agree with the second paragraph. Smile

So we could have two pages on the same person such as (non-actor) Yi Seung-yeol who happens to have something like 4 "official" transcriptions and it would be updated to the current one?

OK, the renaming of pages would be a great thing to do, but wouldn't people not check the talk pages all the time?

That's great. The legacy still is there and it doesn't need to take up half the page.

Thank you again for the responses.
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UsagiYojimbo wrote:
I am not entirely sure, that I am writing in the correct topic...

I would like to create a scraper for XBMC, that looks up information of dramas from DramaWiki. And I thought I would ask permission first...


I know I'm replying to a very old message, but am wondering if anything came of this?
Thanks!
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groovadelickun wrote:
UsagiYojimbo wrote:
I would like to create a scraper for XBMC, that looks up information of dramas from DramaWiki. And I thought I would ask permission first...
I know I'm replying to a very old message, but am wondering if anything came of this?

Not yet... scratch

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Just wondering if the server change will affect the URL from DramaWiki in some way? Will there be a new URL or stay the same?
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/ (Read only at the moment)
And the new temporary? URL http://46.165.216.86/~wiki/wiki/

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

http://46.165.216.86/~wiki/wiki/ is the temporary url of the new wiki server.
The old wiki server will disappear soon and the old address is used for the new one.
So, you can keep using the old address when linking to DramaWiki.

I'll have to ask Ruroshin how to do the DNS migration, or... if I have to do it myself at all. scratch

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MoerkJ wrote:
http://46.165.216.86/~wiki/wiki/ is the temporary url of the new wiki server.
The old wiki server will disappear soon and the old address is used for the new one.

I'll have to ask Ruroshin how to do the DNS migration, or... if I have to do it myself at all. scratch

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Thank you for the answer. Smile
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Update
The wikis are now reachable under their old address again.

http://wiki.d-addicts.com
http://fansub.d-addicts.com

If your name server is still pointing to the old server then you can "force" the new address by adding the following two lines to your hosts file:
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46.165.216.86   wiki.d-addicts.com
46.165.216.86   fansub.d-addicts.com
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:48 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

tried that but it keeps putting me back to the old wiki, the new wiki keeps giving me 404 not found?
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If you save your hosts file under windows with notepad editor then:
  • Make sure that you save a file named "hosts" and not "hosts.txt"
  • Also some anti-virus tools may block modifications of the hosts file. You have to turn off disable the av-tool when you save the hosts file.
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still unable to edit dramawiki....last recent changes 16 november?

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still unable to edit dramawiki....last recent changes 16 november?

I don't know where your problem is. scratch DramaWiki operates normally since 21st November. If you see DramaWiki with a red infobox on every page then you are accessing the old server which is still available read-only. Here are some more hints to fix your problem:
  • first, clear your bowser's cache
  • don't use a web-proxy. instead configure a direct internet connection in your browser
  • use proper DNS servers in your network config, maybe use free nameservers (see setup guide)
  • to avoid any DNS server problems you can add the wiki server IP to your computer's hosts file (see above)
  • make sure you don't have the old server IP (89.149.226.178) in your hosts file anymore

check your network configuration, with ipconfig command under windows, to see if you have configured any DNS server(s)
Code:
C:\>ipconfig /all

Windows IP-Konfiguration

        Host Name. . . . . . . . . . . . . : windows
        Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . : No
        WINS-Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter LAN Connection::

        Connection specific DNS Suffix:
        Description. . . . . . . . . . . : SiS 900-Based PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
        Physical Address . . . . . . : 00-BB-CC-DD-EE-FF
        DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.50
        Subnet Mask. . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
        DNS Server. . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.1.208.30
                                             68.109.202.25
                                             68.1.18.25


test if your DNS server works (using nslookup command) and gives 46.165.216.86 as response, like this:
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$ nslookup wiki.d-addicts.com
Server:         68.1.208.30
Address:        68.1.208.30

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   wiki.d-addicts.com
Address: 46.165.216.86


try to ping the wiki server and check if your computer connects to 46.165.216.86
Code:
$ ping wiki.d-addicts.com
PING wiki.d-addicts.com (46.165.216.86) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 46.165.216.86: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.016 ms
64 bytes from 46.165.216.86: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.015 ms
64 bytes from 46.165.216.86: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.028 ms
64 bytes from 46.165.216.86: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.021 ms
^C
--- wiki.d-addicts.com ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3504ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.015/0.020/0.028/0.005 ms


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:05 pm    Post subject:    Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

it seems like my computer saving it as the old ip 89.149.226.178

how do i change it to 46.165.216.86?


EDIT: Nevermind, fixed already cheers thanks a lot

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UsagiYojimbo wrote:
groovadelickun wrote:
UsagiYojimbo wrote:
I would like to create a scraper for XBMC, that looks up information of dramas from DramaWiki. And I thought I would ask permission first...
I know I'm replying to a very old message, but am wondering if anything came of this?

Not yet... scratch


Not yet as in no one has gotten back to you with permission, or you've not created one?

I, too, would be extremely interested in such a scraper. In fact, I'm tempted to look into how to create one and do it myself.

Huh... it's just XML and Regex. I'm even more intrigued.
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I noticed a possible error on the Wiki page of Yae no Sakura:
http://wiki.d-addicts.com/Yae_no_Sakura

The family name of the "Yamagawa" clan.
On English Wikipedia it says Yamakawa, I did also check the Japanese Wikipedia.
Example - Yamagawa?/Yamakawa Kenjiro.
山川 健次郎 (やまかわ けんじろう)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:53 am    Post subject: re: Yae no Sakura page   Post Rating: 0 Reply with quote

well noticed Keiko1981, how about getting a DramaWiki account? Wink

You can ask such questions directly on the respective discussion page. (Every wiki page can have its own discussion page.)

And if you are (quite) sure that this is an error then you can change it yourself. You don't need to be an expert to contribute to DramaWiki.


To me it looks, like many active wiki editors don't read the forum. And unfortunately only a few forum users seem to contribute to DramaWiki. Neutral

Getting a DramaWiki account is very easy. Just open the account creation form and say in field A that you want an account (e.g. "I want to become a DramaWiki editor because ...bla bla..."). You may state in field B anything you don't want to make public (e.g. your forum name or other personal stuff). I will approve accounts ASAP. (It may take a few hours or even a few days sometimes.) The whole procedure is just to block spam bots away to keep the wiki clean.

Link: DramaWiki account creation form



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