Fighting against DramaCrazy and MySoju

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:44 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

A fundamental shift in fansubbing sounds nice, but when (at least in jdramas) there are groups that claim to have been created to just focus on a specific idol, that's where we get a lot of the competition when a given producer chooses to cram a bunch of them onto one show.

And unfortunately, changes at the source, as great as they would be (I would love to see more diversity in available dramas for sure) I still think doesn't solve the original problem of why we're all here, lamers disregarding requests to not put works online. There will always be those that prefer streaming for whatever reason and those who will put it up online.

I think many of us have politely asked that works be taken down but when are requests are met with silence and any attempts to educate others on our disagreement with streaming have been removed from their sites, it's the continued lack of willingness from them to dialog that makes us realize that such effort is useless.

As for trying to win back over their fans, again it's probably another losing battle. There have been already plenty of reasons that people watch streamed dramas over downloading them and for their situations, it appears they won't change.

But I'm guess what you're proposing SuiginChou is not to focus our efforts on streaming sites directly because there's no way we'll probably take them down (counter to the original post of this thread, but again, discussion is healthy) but to limit the damage by just converting as many fans over to D-addicts. Maybe in the current situation, where streaming is an entrenched part of the internet, the best compromise we can hope for is to get as many viewers *away* from there.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:04 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Well, I guess I work at an internet company, so I really do see video moving to streaming in the future. You cannot ask the viewers to sacrifice convenience; you can only give them a better choice. As much as I love and have been ranting about leechers and streamers, this is the situation we are in.

Obviously, we can either give them streaming or not give them streaming. So this gives us two choices:

a.) Subbers re-encode a completely awful, LQ version of each video that has barely legible subs and upload them onto streaming. That way, if people upload a higher quality version up there, the subbers can say, no, we only want to LQ version up there. Then, you can put watermarks on there (in HQ) of where to find the HQ versions. For those people who are willing to put up with the LQ... well, it just goes to show that people are willing to put up with anything for a bit of convenience.

b.) Go underground. I agree with SuiginChou that if we do, we shouldn't talk about it. I don't say this because of "rudeness" or "respect" or what not. I say it simply because underground is meant to be secret. If it's broadcasted, then why bother? After all, who would be able to screen out the streaming-uploaders when they join? (I certainly don't know who they are, or which IP they use, or anything remotely useful like that.) So it would have to be a "I trust you so I'm telling you and inviting you" sort of deal.

I personally vote with option a. It's more foolproof. Tongue

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Ah, screw it. I'm just going to learn Mandarin, Japanese, and Korean and watch the raws......

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:57 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

More power to you, amrayu.

I don't know what else to say about this. Every time I see something I've subbed up on DC, I come closer and closer to throwing in the towel. Well, maybe if they drive all the fansubbers underground they'll attract enough subbers to do all their own work (hah! Industrious streamers? Doubt it.) and then they'll no longer need to steal from us.

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:12 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

mmm, I'm torn between the fact that I totally stick to Amrayu, Groink, etc... point of view and the fact that if drama subbing really goes underground I won't have access to it... Big Smile

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 6:53 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

It really isn't fun like it used to be. :/ Keep us posted on any possible developments?

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

There is too much hard work being put to subbing dramas. Those cowboy stream sites ought to be buried for eternity.

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: Post Rating: -3

OMF Sh*t !! Mad

i know these two guys who own DC are brothers.
[ iknow its not gonna make a f*cking diff but i just need to say these out]
These @ssholes are from Iran.
I think his name is Vihad Marjamali or some fcking thing lik that.
One of the sh*tty brothers go to the f*ckin UC San Diego.
Maybe one of you can go to that f*cking UC San Diego just for fansubber's sake and beat the f*cking SH*T outta him !!!
Cussing

Jeez.. this thing is starting to get on my nerves!!! Mad

oh wait, its already on my f*cking nerves!!! Gahhh.. Cussing

excuse my language Glare

thank you for understanding.
have a nice day.

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:35 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Well I support SARS, but mysoju has been active for years...... And well I think that we need to understand something. As fas as I know It is illegal when the DVD or VIDEO or whatever is distributed in your county, so we already know that not so many dramas are distributed in this side of the Continent, so lets just enjoy the Dramas that as much as SARS and MySoju or any other Fansub bring us to the Internet, and let's stop arguing about silly things....!!

Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0

Is there any update on this?

Submitted by amrayu on Tue, 07/21/2009 - 03:05.

Operation Kill DramaCrazy (MySoju next!)
1. Contact ad serving agencies and official license holders
>>>Contact made with ad serving agency: Pubmatic
>>>Contact made with Disney for various Studio Ghibli content on AC
>>>Contact made with Regency Releasing for Oscar Winning movie Departures on DC
>>>Violation report made at Google Adsense for MySoju.

Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: Post Rating: 0